(01-13-2022 03:59 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(01-13-2022 03:37 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(01-13-2022 03:20 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(01-13-2022 02:48 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(01-13-2022 02:44 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  Will was old for a freshman he was held back so he could be in the same class as his brother. Hopefully we can get 2 years out of Emoni but at this point I doubt it. But I don’t think another year is going to make him a much better ball handler. It sure didn’t help Lomax or Harris. They make the same mistakes they made 3 years ago

You think the talent level is the same between those? People have ceilings. Alo pretty much reached his in high school. I disagree on Harris, he has progressed a lot.

That is like saying nobody can learn to build a skyscraper because your local architect cant.

Talent doesn’t have anything to do with ball handling imo. Well not a bunch anyway

And Tyler Harris is very talented probably more athletic than Emoni. His problem is he’s a foot shorter

Look I don’t mean any disrespect towards Bates, but I’ve seen lottery picks and he isn’t one. And any team that drafts him is going to find that out. He can still be a good college player but apparently his family has crossed the point of no return in that regard.

I really have nothing to discuss if you genuinely believe ball handling and talent are not directly related to one another... I can pretty much guarantee you will not find any person making a living in the basketball world that agrees with that.

There is a reason Steph Curry and Kyrie Irving can do things with a basketball that I would never be able to do no matter how much work I put into ball handling skills, and that is talent. Their ceiling is simply much higher than mine...

And my conversation had nothing to do with a lottery pick. It was simply you comparing a 19 year old freshman (who really should have been a sophomore in college) to a 17 year old freshman (who should really be a junior in high school). I was simply pointing out that in 2-3 years that Emoni's ball handling will be much better and likely at the level or beyond that of Will Barton's.

You’ve completely missed out on what I’m trying to point out. Forget the talent thing.

Derrick Rose beat people off the dribble from the day he hit campus

So did Tyreke Evans

So did CDR

So did Shawne Williams

So did DWash

Outside of the Lemoyne Owen buy games Emoni hasn’t beat a decent division one defender one on one yet. His best move is the pull up jumper

I don’t see how a year is going to help him get better at beating a good defender off the dribble.

If he gets in the weight room maybe he can get stronger at least. But he’s just not an elite player even comparable with the former tigers mentioned above. And half of them even flamed out in the nba, although for most it was off the court stuff.

Have a good day sir