(09-29-2021 12:51 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(09-29-2021 12:37 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(09-29-2021 12:28 PM)Southernpride416 Wrote:  

(09-29-2021 12:16 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  For those who think that the vaxxed are more unlikely to spread covid than the unvaxxed;

I have natural immunity. If any of you think I am more likely to spread covid than a vaxxed person, then there is no way I'm going to be able to pull your head out of your ass for you.

Again, that is what is wrong with these rules. They dont make sense and go against science.

1. If you want to force everyone to show a neg test, thats fine. Its completely overkill, but whatever. Are you going to say its ok when they start asking for neg HIV tests?

2. If you want to say show a neg test or proof of antibodies (natural immunity) thats fine. Its overkill, but whatever.

3. If you ask for a neg test or a vax card, then that is completely stupid because you could have a vax card and be spewing the virus at higher loads than an unvaxxed person.

So what are you trying to accomplish? Common sense backed up by science, or control?

HIV? Is it an orgy or something?

HIV is another public health issue where we have changed policy.

It doesn't mean HIV was a "hoax" it just means we know more know about it.

People thought back in the day, one could get it from touching. Or aerosol droplets. Drinking after someone or eating on the same plate.

When Louganis later revealed his was HIV+ when he bumped his head and cut it on the diving board and bled in the pool. After the fact people were furious he didn't tell because his AIDS blood could have infected other people. Magic Johnson received pushback when he played in the NBA with HIV as people were concerned he might give the HIV to other players.

We now know A LOT more about HIV. But the protocols that were first in place and no longer there aren't a by product of HIV being a hoax, just that we know more about it.

I'm not sure if you realize it, but you just made my (our) point.

There is simply no way possible that we really know the answers to most of these questions. In 5-10-20 years...sure. But, those speaking in definites on these topics is a partisan, a moron, or both.

Cell phones does not cause brain cancer in 50 years of use...Anyone who says that definitively is a moron, partisan or both

Extensive use of computer screens for 50 years does not cause blindness...Anyone who says that definitively is a moron, partisan or both

Driving an electric car for 10 years does not cause infertility from sitting above the battery...Anyone who says that definitively is a moron, partisan or both

If we bring back samples from Mars we are going to introduce an agent that is going to affect 95% of the population and it is going to be like I am Legend...Any one who says definitively that isn't going to happen is a moron, partisan or both.

I can do this all day.