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RE: Ridder NIL Deal
(07-15-2021 07:30 AM)nachoman91 Wrote:  
(07-15-2021 12:21 AM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  I can't logically or morally be against NIL when lots of head coaches are making $5 million + per year, with coordinators at big schools making $1 million +. That's not to mention the money that Mark Emmert, the athletic directors, the conference commissioners, and the media partners are making. The best analogy I've heard is -- if a really talented musician on scholarship at CCM wants to make some money gigging on the weekends or teaching lessons, no one bats an eye. Yet, if an athlete wants to be paid for his/her time, it's frowned upon. This should have happened years, if not decades ago. Unfortunately, it likely doesn't benefit UC -- but most things about modern college athletics don't either. The divide between the haves and have-nots will continue to grow regardless of NIL.

The difference is schools aren't competing against each other to win a national championship in music. A talented musician isn't going to get a gig just because he chose to go to UC.

I'm not against players getting paid but the last I checked they were already getting paid. A UC scholarship with free room and board, meals, clothing, etc is worth over $125K for four years. Plus they get roughly another $6K per year as a stipend from the ruling that came about several years ago.

Without a way to control it, this will eventually turn into a bidding war for high school recruits. Frankly I wouldn't care if I rooted for OSU or Alabama. Those schools will have plenty of money and willing boosters to make sure they keep getting the top athletes. UC will suffer and the divide will only grow.

You do realize that the scholarship is essentially a salary for work carried out for the University, but these players are otherwise not able to make money off of anyone using their likeness, or really much of anything in general? Two completely different animals...it's essentially like you trying to say you can't collect dividends on your portfolio because you're already being paid a salary every year by a completely different entity. There is a reason why "Cincinnati" isn't anywhere on this NIL stuff...players cannot use their playing status to market themselves, it has to be done on personal notoriety (one interesting wrinkle to this in general). Truthfully, I agree with many on here that there will be an initial burst around the country, but many people and corporations will realize it is a poor use of their business expenses after a little while. The biggest thing this does is lay the groundwork for a general likeness use agreement for video games and whatnot, where every player would get a flat check a la the NFAPA/EA agreement. I had a few buddies get nice checks from that without even playing an NFL down.

To me, this won't cause a greater divide...hell, I think we've already reach critical mass there. I'm just happy people aren't being held captive by the system anymore. I've said this numerous times, but I was not allowed to collect my salary for a co-op because of NCAA regulations on how I wrote my resume, I had friends who had parents who couldn't afford their apartments who were playing for coaches making millions of dollars off of their talents...its just not right.

It is quite interesting that many who are for free markets generally are against this and vice versa...kind of a Freaky Friday-ish situation going on.
 
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Ridder NIL Deal - UCGrad1992 - 07-13-2021, 08:10 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - UCGrad1992 - 07-13-2021, 08:18 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - nachoman91 - 07-14-2021, 05:58 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - CliftonAve - 07-14-2021, 07:07 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Cataclysmo - 07-14-2021, 08:44 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - nachoman91 - 07-14-2021, 08:13 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - CliftonAve - 07-14-2021, 08:20 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - nachoman91 - 07-14-2021, 09:50 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - CliftonAve - 07-14-2021, 10:10 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Bearhawkeye - 07-14-2021, 03:05 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Cataclysmo - 07-14-2021, 08:42 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - bearcatfan - 07-14-2021, 08:52 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - BearcatMan - 07-14-2021, 09:10 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - rath v2.0 - 07-15-2021, 03:40 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - BearcatMan - 07-15-2021, 04:45 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - rath v2.0 - 07-15-2021, 05:16 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - BearcatMan - 07-15-2021, 06:54 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Bearhawkeye - 07-15-2021, 08:35 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - BearcatMan - 07-15-2021, 09:20 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Bearhawkeye - 07-16-2021, 12:17 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Bear Catlett - 07-14-2021, 11:30 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Banter - 07-14-2021, 12:43 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - robertfoshizzle - 07-15-2021, 12:21 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - QSECOFR - 07-15-2021, 06:34 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - nachoman91 - 07-15-2021, 07:30 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - BearcatMan - 07-15-2021 07:56 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Z-Fly - 07-15-2021, 07:48 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Helicopter - 07-15-2021, 08:28 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - BearcatMan - 07-15-2021, 09:01 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Bear Catlett - 07-15-2021, 11:20 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Captain Bearcat - 07-15-2021, 11:39 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - nachoman91 - 07-15-2021, 12:08 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - BearcatMan - 07-15-2021, 12:20 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - DownOnRohs - 07-15-2021, 10:39 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - UCBearcatlawjd2 - 07-15-2021, 12:24 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - BearcatMan - 07-15-2021, 12:33 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Captain Bearcat - 07-15-2021, 04:58 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Nobones - 07-15-2021, 06:19 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - BearcatMan - 07-15-2021, 06:51 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Nobones - 07-15-2021, 07:19 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - nachoman91 - 07-15-2021, 12:37 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - BearcatMan - 07-15-2021, 12:44 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - doss2 - 07-15-2021, 08:51 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - QSECOFR - 07-15-2021, 09:03 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Captain Bearcat - 07-16-2021, 07:42 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Bearhawkeye - 07-16-2021, 12:06 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - QSECOFR - 07-16-2021, 02:18 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - rath v2.0 - 07-15-2021, 11:13 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - TubaCat - 07-16-2021, 06:37 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - QSECOFR - 07-16-2021, 07:12 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - bearcatmark - 07-16-2021, 08:57 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Bearhawkeye - 07-16-2021, 08:05 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - UCGrad1992 - 07-20-2021, 02:31 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - nachoman91 - 07-20-2021, 03:07 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - bearcatmark - 07-20-2021, 03:16 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Bearhawkeye - 07-20-2021, 04:21 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Captain Bearcat - 07-20-2021, 04:46 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - nachoman91 - 07-21-2021, 10:22 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - ZCat - 07-21-2021, 12:38 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - BearcatMan - 07-21-2021, 01:29 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Bearhawkeye - 07-21-2021, 03:31 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - BearcatMan - 07-20-2021, 02:55 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Captain Bearcat - 07-20-2021, 04:51 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - rath v2.0 - 07-20-2021, 03:55 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Edgebrookjeff - 07-20-2021, 04:09 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - rath v2.0 - 07-20-2021, 05:59 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Coopdaddy67 - 07-20-2021, 06:05 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Nobones - 07-20-2021, 06:28 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - rath v2.0 - 07-20-2021, 06:32 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - doss2 - 07-20-2021, 09:36 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - QSECOFR - 07-20-2021, 10:04 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - rath v2.0 - 07-21-2021, 01:30 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Z-Fly - 07-21-2021, 02:22 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - rath v2.0 - 07-21-2021, 02:28 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - BearcatMan - 07-21-2021, 04:48 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Captain Bearcat - 07-22-2021, 12:03 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - rath v2.0 - 07-22-2021, 12:07 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - BearcatMan - 07-22-2021, 12:14 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - UCGrad1992 - 07-29-2021, 07:46 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Bruce Monnin - 07-29-2021, 10:11 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - BearcatMan - 07-30-2021, 07:37 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Captain Bearcat - 08-12-2021, 05:17 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - chatcat - 07-30-2021, 08:07 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - rath v2.0 - 08-12-2021, 02:44 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Bearcat 1985 - 08-12-2021, 02:53 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - rath v2.0 - 08-12-2021, 02:57 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - CliftonAve - 08-12-2021, 05:10 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - rath v2.0 - 08-12-2021, 05:47 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Bearcat 1985 - 08-12-2021, 09:45 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Captain Bearcat - 08-12-2021, 11:04 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - dave108 - 08-13-2021, 06:17 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Captain Bearcat - 08-13-2021, 10:36 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - cmhcat - 08-13-2021, 12:10 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Captain Bearcat - 08-15-2021, 08:31 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - cmhcat - 08-16-2021, 05:36 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - rath v2.0 - 08-12-2021, 03:22 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - UCGrad1992 - 08-12-2021, 03:36 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - rath v2.0 - 08-13-2021, 06:41 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Bear Catlett - 08-13-2021, 06:53 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - CliftonAve - 08-13-2021, 07:10 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Bear Catlett - 08-13-2021, 08:31 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - doss2 - 08-13-2021, 10:34 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Cataclysmo - 08-17-2021, 10:59 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Captain Bearcat - 08-17-2021, 11:09 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Cataclysmo - 08-17-2021, 11:21 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Captain Bearcat - 08-17-2021, 05:01 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - bearcatmark - 08-17-2021, 06:06 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Bear Catlett - 08-17-2021, 06:01 PM
Ridder NIL Deal - Cataclysmo - 08-17-2021, 05:28 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Bcatbog - 01-06-2022, 06:48 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - doss2 - 01-06-2022, 07:37 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - dave108 - 01-06-2022, 07:46 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - CliftonAve - 01-06-2022, 07:55 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - BigDawg - 01-06-2022, 10:13 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Cataclysmo - 01-08-2022, 04:32 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Bruce Monnin - 08-17-2021, 06:19 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Cataclysmo - 08-17-2021, 06:40 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - rath v2.0 - 08-31-2021, 03:19 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Bearhawkeye - 01-06-2022, 12:44 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - doss2 - 01-07-2022, 07:34 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Nobones - 01-08-2022, 05:56 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - glacier_dropsy - 01-09-2022, 01:01 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Bcatbog - 01-09-2022, 08:03 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Cataclysmo - 01-09-2022, 12:09 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - bearcatmark - 01-09-2022, 09:21 AM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - Bruce Monnin - 01-09-2022, 01:27 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - BearcatMan - 01-09-2022, 02:27 PM
RE: Ridder NIL Deal - glacier_dropsy - 01-09-2022, 03:04 PM



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