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RE: Update on Status of US Navy
The USS Ford is probably going to deploy--sort of. This year, Ford,

" … will conduct a “service-retained early employment” period where the Navy keeps full control over the ship’s activities and schedule, Rear Adm. John Meier said.
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The carrier and its strike group will operate on both sides of the Atlantic Ocean alongside a long list of foreign navies, he [RAdm. Meier] said.
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2nd Fleet’s sent out a ton of invitations, done a huge amount of work of inviting partners and allies to come and interact with Ford
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The air wing will be a robust, fully capable air wing, but smaller than an operational carrier air wing, … But that air wing is going to be more potent than any other air wing on any other ship in the world as it is, Meier said."[1]

This is not a typical deployment. Te Navy will keep control rather than passing it to area operational commanders. At the first sign of trouble, they will bring it home. They have spent $15B on a worthless carrier.

Here is what I think should be done:

1) Set the USS Ford aside until it works, specifically until the catapults, arresting gear, weapons lifts--and toilets--work.
2) Stop work on the remaining three Ford class carriers, redesign them to incorporate steam cats, hydraulic traps, weapons lifts, and plumbing from the Nimitz class, and complete them to revised design; this will cost an arm and a leg, but it is possible--the original JFK was redesigned from nuke to conventional steam propulsion after construction had started--and at least it will provide carriers that can launch aircraft off the front end and recover them over the back end, and places where sailors can take a crap when they need to
3) Go back to the Nimitz or an improved Nimitz or the RAND CVN XL design for future nuke carriers
4) Design a new conventionally powered class of CVs, probably an updated Kitty Hawk, and build them on a 1:1 basis with CVNs; at an estimated $9B for the Nimitz/improved Nimitz/CVN LX, and $6B for the CV, you can get two carriers for the $15B price tag of one Ford, or 12 two-carrier CVBGs for the price of 12 Fords
5) While waiting for the new CVs to enter the fleet (probably 10-15 years for the first), convert the LHD/LHD "large deck amphibs" to interim Lightning Carriers--put in ski jumps, replace the troop berthing and equipment spaces and the well decks with larger hangars and aircraft maintenance spaces, and if practicable upgrade engineering plants to get 25-28 knots out of them; they are basically worthless as amphibs because doctrine requires them to stay 25-50 miles offshore, from which they have no way to get tanks and heavy artillery ashore, forcing Marines to abandon them; the useful lives of the LAs/LHDs will probably run out just as the CVs join the fleet, making a pretty smooth transition; estimated conversion cost about $1.5-2B each
6) To replace the LHAs/LHDs as amphibs, build some more traditional/conventional amphibious squadrons (PhibRons) that can actually be risked close enough to shore to conduct an assault--smaller LHA/LHD like Spanish Juan Carlos/Australian Canberra, LPH like French Mistral, LSD/LPD like British Albion, LST with beaching bow like Turkish Bayraktar, LPA/LKA that could be converted merchant, and fire support/land attack frigate with 155mm guns and rockets like an enlarged LSMR; total cost per PhibRon $4B, or about the cost of one new LHA/LHD; 10 such PhibRons should satisfy the Marines' requirement for a 2-MEB lift capability
7) As the new amphibs enter the fleet, convert the existing San Antonio class LPDs to the ABM/BMD ships that HII has proposed for the same hull, and deploy them to protect advanced bases--Yokosuka, Sasebo, Okinawa, Guam, Pearl, Rota, Naples--and major domestic ports/bases--Seattle/Puget Sound, San Francisco, Los Angeles/Long Beach, San Diego, New York, Chesapeake Bay, Jacksonville/Kings Bay, New Orleans, Houston/Corpus Christi.
8) In addition to the 12 CVBGs (that can form six of Marc Mitscher's 4-carrier task forces) build 8 surface action/hunter-killer groups (SAG/HUKs) consisting of a modern battleship patterned after the 1980s battlecarrier concept (6 16-inch guns, 320 vertical launch missile cells, with 128 convertible to 32 long-range hypersonic/supersonic cruise or short/intermediate ballistic missile cells, and a ski jump flight deck and hangar for 10 F35Bs and 10 helos) and an ASW helo carrier like the Japanese Hyuga (18 helos)
9) For each of the 12 CVBGs and 8 SAG/HUKs, have an escort squadron (CortRon) consisting of 10 ships (20 squadrons, 200 ships total)--1 cruiser (larger replacement for Ticos, Des Moines hull, 2x3 8" guns, 192 VLS cells with 64 convertible to 16 long-range hypersonic/supersonic cruise missile or SRBM/IRBM cells, large deck for UAV operations with USV/UUV capability over the side), 2 AAW destroyers (Burkes or Burke replacements), 3 GP escorts (could be FREMMs but not the FFG(X)s that the USN has bastardized the FREMMs into), and 4 ASW frigates (ASW specialists); in wartime, PhibRons would always travel with CVBGs/CTFs and/or SAG/HUKs, and thus do not require separate escort forces; cost $12B/squadron, $240B total

That would be my naval air/surface combat fleet.

[1]Defense News website, “US Navy carrier Ford to go on unusual deployment this year”, Megan Eckstein, 3-Feb-2022, https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2022/0...this-year/
(This post was last modified: 02-14-2022 08:03 AM by Owl 69/70/75.)
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Update on Status of US Navy - Owl 69/70/75 - 06-15-2021, 10:18 AM
RE: Update on Status of US Navy - Todor - 06-15-2021, 10:54 AM
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RE: Update on Status of US Navy - bullet - 06-23-2021, 09:20 PM
RE: Update on Status of US Navy - Claw - 06-15-2021, 11:05 AM
RE: Update on Status of US Navy - memtigbb - 06-17-2021, 06:50 PM
RE: Update on Status of US Navy - oruvoice - 06-15-2021, 11:43 AM
RE: Update on Status of US Navy - Todor - 06-15-2021, 11:58 AM
RE: Update on Status of US Navy - memtigbb - 06-15-2021, 11:53 AM
RE: Update on Status of US Navy - oruvoice - 06-15-2021, 12:11 PM
RE: Update on Status of US Navy - Claw - 06-15-2021, 12:02 PM
RE: Update on Status of US Navy - Claw - 06-15-2021, 12:14 PM
RE: Update on Status of US Navy - memtigbb - 06-15-2021, 12:26 PM
RE: Update on Status of US Navy - Old Blue - 06-15-2021, 02:00 PM
RE: Update on Status of US Navy - JMUDunk - 06-15-2021, 02:51 PM
RE: Update on Status of US Navy - Claw - 06-16-2021, 11:25 AM
RE: Update on Status of US Navy - boss man - 06-16-2021, 08:35 PM
RE: Update on Status of US Navy - No2rdame - 07-30-2021, 11:43 AM
RE: Update on Status of US Navy - Eldonabe - 10-08-2021, 12:24 PM
RE: Update on Status of US Navy - Todor - 10-31-2021, 05:22 PM
RE: Update on Status of US Navy - GoodOwl - 01-05-2022, 09:22 PM
RE: Update on Status of US Navy - Owl 69/70/75 - 02-14-2022 03:45 AM
RE: Update on Status of US Navy - Gamenole - 03-03-2022, 05:16 PM
RE: Update on Status of US Navy - GoodOwl - 03-29-2022, 11:15 PM
RE: Update on Status of US Navy - Gamenole - 03-31-2022, 07:14 PM
RE: Update on Status of US Navy - JRsec - 03-31-2022, 07:24 PM
RE: Update on Status of US Navy - maximus - 03-31-2022, 07:16 PM
Update on Status of US Navy - B_Hawk06 - 06-21-2022, 11:08 PM
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RE: Update on Status of US Navy - mlb - 01-17-2023, 01:42 PM
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RE: Update on Status of US Navy - JRsec - 03-20-2023, 02:42 PM
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RE: Update on Status of US Navy - RuckleSt - 04-06-2023, 08:45 PM
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