(05-03-2021 11:12 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(05-03-2021 10:46 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  You all forget you are watching a high school highlight clip reel... Moussa looked absolutely dominate in his clips. Again, I think Sam will have a great career here but if you are expecting him to play more than 10-12 minutes a game and be more than a 5 ppg and 5 rebounds then you are setting yourself up for disappointment...

10-12?

Let's put things in perspective:

Last 10+ years of bigs (frosh stats):

Moussa (#10 reclassified) 6.6 ppg 6.3 rpg
Wiseman (only 3 games #1/2 in class) 19.7 ppg 10.7 ppg
Malco Dandridge (#106) 3.4 ppg 3.0 rpg
Lance Thomas (#120 at 'Ville): 2.2 ppg 1.3 rpg
Dedric Lawson (#36) 15.8 ppg 9.3 rpg
Nick Marshall (#95) 3.1 ppg 2.7 rpg
Dominic Woodson (#77) 2.5 ppg 1.9 rpg
Austin Nichols (#22) 9.3 ppg 4.3 rpg
Shaq (#35) 7.4 ppg 4.4 ppg
Tarik Black (#62) 9.1 ppg 5.0 rpg
Stan Simpson (#190 at Illinois) 0.5 ppg 0.4 rpg
Hippolyte Tsafack (#174) 1.0 ppg 0.3 rpg


Basically (Tarik being the outlier) only guys 35 or better really contributed as Frosh.

One could expect the guys in the 90-120 range to be 3and 3 guys while the further you do down (in the 180's) those guys were mop ups.

Sam is right in that spot at 100. 3 and 3 would be on target.

But I'm sure people will "explain" that somehow he's the one recruit who hasn't happened to be rated properly and he's more "in the top 30-40 range" if there had been AAU or some other situation.

Just like how Malco was horribly underrated and his skills set, body, and maturity didn't belie his 100+ ranking. Yet somehow after two seasons his still only at 3.6 ppg and 2.9 rpg.

It's not that at all, it is more dependent on roster and need. CDR at 8.3 points per game is 100X better than Brewton at 9.1 points per game. Obviously, you can have a player be infinitely superior to another player, even if they don't score as much.

13.3 Davenport
9.1 Brewton
8.1 Parks
6.9 Jamal Johnson
5.2 Randall

8.3 CDR
7.2 Anderson
6.6 Crawford
5.6 Dozier
4.6 Dorsey

It all depends on Dandridge being healthy, his level of play, and foul trouble on Dandridge and DW. Against some opponents, DW won't be able to guard their center.

If Sam has a pulse and isn't completely lost, he is probably looking at 8 minutes at the low end, and 14 minutes at the high end. I'm guessing he will be in the 12 minute range. You can't just shoehorn players into a scoring range based on their ranking. If Sam plays 8 minutes, he will produce at a certain level. If he plays 18 minutes, he will produce at a different level.

Your Dandridge example is invalid, because he hasn't been healthy.