(04-21-2021 04:01 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-21-2021 01:27 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  I’m a champion of the 5-1-2 model. Everyone starts the season with a clear picture of what they need to do to make the playoff.

There’s also very little that’s left to a panel to decide:

They are picking 2 at-larges, comparing the resumes of 5 G5 champs, and seeding the field of 8.

Well, that's true if you are a P5 school - win the conference and you are in.

But for the G5 it is the same kind of "beauty contest" that everyone faces for the playoffs right now.

Now sure, that's better for the G5 than what it has now. But really, the reason 5-1-2 seems to have much more support among AAC fans than fans of other G5 is that AAC fans, and probably quite correctly, assume that the AAC champ will benefit from the same kind of "beauty contest bias" in its favor compared to the other G conferences as the P5 have towards the G5 right now, making it a kind of de-facto AAC spot.

I mean, just look at Cincy vs Coastal this past season for the G5 NY6 spot. On paper, very similar resumes, but Cincy was always ranked comfortably ahead.

I dont see that. Ive yet to see any G5 fan be against the 5-1-2. Even if they agree with you that the AAC has an advantage---they still will be for it because (and this applies to the AAC as well) its the best they are going to get. There wont be a G5 playoff for the G5 slot (takes too much time and brings up too many player safety issues) and there wont be a 16 team playoff that takes every champ (for the same reasons). It is what it is. There may be a selection committee bias toward the AAC---but that bias is small. Coastal was only 4 places behind Cinci (8th vs 12th). Is there any question that Cinci would have fallen more than 4 slots with a loss? So, Coastal was basically one Bearcat loss from the G5 getting the G5 access bowl slot.

I think that shows that a 1-loss AAC team beating out a undefeated G4 is fairly unlikely---and clearly a 2 loss AAC team has zero chance of beating out an undefeated G4. Thus--this is not like the P5-G5 bias we normally see from the Committee....its more of a less intrusive (and frankly reasonable) tie goes to the AAC type bias. I think the AAC will dominate a G5 playoff slot----but there are going to be years when a G4 goes to the playoff....and while that may not be perfectly equitable-----thats miles better than the current system for any G5 team.