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(04-05-2023 12:34 PM)757ODU Wrote:  

(04-05-2023 10:51 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(04-05-2023 07:50 AM)757ODU Wrote:  People trying to discredit KenPom is hilarious to me. It is factual information being plugged into kenpom, and being judged over an entirety of a season. Good grief man...some of the takes on her are absolutely horrible.

Well sure, but it's insignificant. It's like saying a generic democrat is better than a generic republican because of data polled from 30 people in the San Francisco area. It's just one man made formula out of a bunch of them that produce different results. One can argue which is the best formula, but the fact remains it is not accurate. Only way to determine whose better on a given day is to play a game. Otherwise, sports betting wouldn't exist.

Back to the initial argument, ODU was better than Syracuse when they played. While I appreciate that just because ODU was better that day doesn't necessarily mean they were better on average throughout the season, Syracuse had 14 losses that season and ODU had 9. Their final season outcome was identical. ODU had human factors that none of the formulas have the ability to measure or calculate in its favor such as senior leadership that willed them to gut out close games and steal some they should have lost throughout the season. KenPom actual punishes that. There is no evidence aside from formulas such as KenPom's that Syracuse was the better team that year. They had a few good wins, but they are in a good conference with good teams with good players that they knew how to match up with. If ODU had the same schedule and familiarity with those conference opponents, there is no data to suggest they would have performed better or worse nor is there any data that Syracuse would have fared better or worse with our schedule. There were zero common opponents and all these opponents are different in strengths, weaknesses, and styles of play.

So you want everyone in the country to play against each other? 362 game schedule. That would definitely be interesting.

No, I'd like to stop pretending the nerd formula is anything important enjoy the actual games, which are entertaining for the rest of us and where the results are actually meaningful.