(04-20-2021 02:27 PM)Ourland Wrote:  

(04-20-2021 09:03 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(04-20-2021 08:55 AM)Ourland Wrote:  I'm glad he's being encouraged to pursue other interests. His coaching hires in the three biggest sports have all been suspect. None of them have panned out so far, and we don't need him around if Bloomgren struggles to bowl eligibility this year. Kids are leaving our programs in droves. The gentleman who posted the on-line petition said it best. I agree that something is very wrong in the athletics department.

Yet another gross exaggeration (if not outright falsehood). Do tell what kids are leaving our programs in droves, especially relative to other school programs?

We lost five when Rhoades left as basketball coach, and we continue to lose our best two players at the end of almost every season. The same is true in football. If Rice were a great place to be an athlete, these kids would be staying, even the graduate transfers.

I would expect there to be more turnover at places that can't provide nearly as good an education as Rice, but that isn't the case. The education is outstanding, so there must be something very wrong with the athletics experience on campus.

This is a good point... though I understand what Walt is saying... I'll try and say it differently

The ability to transfer creates an opportunity to address whatever shortcomings your initial choice had... like we can offer a highly valued degree to someone who chose athletics over academics initially.... or we can offer a marginally higher level of competition to someone who chose the latter (like a Harvard grad transfer)

Not all transfers are the same... so looking at 'numbers' can be highly misleading.

What I'd like to know is how many of our starters we are losing (they are upgrading athletically) vs how many we are getting (they are upgrading academically, and MAYBE also athletically). Getting a Harvard starting transfer doesn't say as much about our football prospects as getting a Baylor or Tech starting transfer (they started there).... and getting a Kilgore transfer could mean anything.