(02-23-2021 02:24 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-23-2021 02:04 PM)Oman Wrote:  

(02-23-2021 10:16 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  It is 100% possible to be Christian and not choose abortion for yourself, yet still support that in this country, a woman should have the right to make that decision.

Green my friend, it's not possible. As a Christian you can support tolerance for choices that you might not choose for your self if it affects only that person.. perhaps alchohol, drugs, any number of things. But as a Christian you cannot support a "right" to end the life of another human.. that choice not only affects the woman but the child... it just doesn't fit.

thank you for your response, i appreciate discussion

I disagree, and where it seems to diverge is when people consider it to be "murder."
Some like previous posters consider it to be when there's a heartbeat, some consider it to be at conception, I personally consider it to be at viability. Every single person has a different opinion on this issue.

As a Christian I can support a woman's right to choose what happens with her body, even if not a single fiber of my being would be able to do it personally. I can also understand and respect the fact that the law extends past when I personally think is "too far." It is a personal choice between a woman, her doctor, and her partner/family.

If the rule is that as a Christian you cannot support a "right" to end the life of another human, then a whole lot of Christians need to revamp their opinion on the death penalty as well. Doesn't matter if that person is a wicked, evil being - you're supporting ending the life of a person who is already living & breathing outside of another person's body.

Green you've put up a straw man to deflect from a position that cannot be defended, perhaps supported by my choice of words, the term "right to end a life" was directed at this discussion, not a blanket statement. You are now comparing aborting a child to self-defense and execution of judgement by a government. You have also shifted to stating this "right" to terminate a pregnancy includes a woman, her doctor, her partner and family. But it does not. In our laws the choice is the woman's and hers only.

i have some sympathy for a stance that you could support an abortion before the heartbeat, although i would take issue with it that's at least a defendable position. But this is a shift as well. Your original statement was you supported the woman's right because it's legal and by implication the right as codified in our laws... there are no checks.. no limitations.. a woman can arbitrarily take an innocent human life for any reason at virtually any time before birth, and THAT is certainly not a defendable Christian position.