(01-13-2021 09:11 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-13-2021 08:59 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(01-13-2021 06:03 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:  

(01-13-2021 04:09 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-13-2021 04:01 PM)Realignment Wrote:  The SEC is the premiere conference in College Football. After that, the rest are there to try and slay the beast.

Big Time Programs

SEC (Alabama, Georgia, Florida & LSU)
ACC (Clemson, Florida State & Miami)
Big 12 (Oklahoma & Texas)
Big Ten (Michigan, Ohio State & Penn State)
Pac-12 (Oregon & USC)

2nd Tier Big Time Programs

SEC (Arkansas, Ole Miss, Tennessee & Texas A&M)
ACC (Louisville)
Big 12 (Oklahoma State)
Big Ten (Michigan State & Wisconsin)
Pac-12 (Stanford, UCLA & Washington)

That's how I would see it for these conferences right now. The rest are more feel good stories for the programs if they find success.

Your understanding of Big Time programs and 2nd Tier programs is lacking.

Auburn has won a title and played for one. Georgia has made the CFP and won 1 game. And yet you do not list Auburn in either grouping. Arkansas, Ole Miss and Tennessee haven't won anything in over 15 years. Texas A&M is yet to win the SEC but I admit they are an improving program and relatively strong.

Miami hasn't won anything in over 15 years either and Florida State while deserving of their position has dropped off the charts the past few years.

Oregon has never won anything but they have played for a title. Washington probably deserves to be on par with Oregon because they did get a piece of a title some 20 plus years ago.

Penn State hasn't won a Big 10 title and hasn't made the CFP. They are strong but not Ohio State level. Ohio State no longer has peers in the Big 10.

All else aside, I believe Penn St won the B1G in 2016.

And has played in the Rose, Fiesta and Cotton bowls since then.

We are talking championships. A USC fan presented a list. Those were debated. I haven't seen Penn State in the CFP yet. I didn't google everything but since they had not been in the CFP I had forgotten they won the Big 10 and didn't go. The SEC has won 11 of the last 15 natty's with Clemson taking 2, Florida State 1, and Ohio State 1. The issue I raised was why some regions were dominant. That means that the states of Louisiana, Alabama, South Carolina, and Florida have accounted for the overwhelming majority and the others since the BCS were from Texas, Oklahoma and Ohio. All of those places are where high school football is still a religion. As support for, and participation in, high school football has dipped everywhere else particularly on the two coasts the game has become regional. It's been quite awhile since Penn State played for a natty. It's a very strong program but not dominant.

You mentioned Penn State hasn’t won a Big Ten title. BePcr07 mentioned the Nittany Lions won the conference in 2016. I added it has played in three NY6 bowls since then. There’s no other program in the nation like Alabama. At this point is Alabama with perhaps 10 programs trying to play catch up.