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(12-16-2020 02:17 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 02:08 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 12:49 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 12:34 PM)757ODU Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 12:20 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  What ranking would you need us to be in order to not believe our program is embarrassing?

Giles the program has gotten ugly over the past two years. You really had to consider how far off we are when you watched that ODU/VCU game. That woke me up.

It was certainly ugly vs. VCU and all of last year. There is zero doubt about that.

That's part of it. But most of us could handle a little downturn if we were rebuilding. However, this is a veteran team. What are we going to look like when we lose Curry and Trice next year? What star players do we have that we can develop and take their places?

That's why we need a change. Not just because of last year and this year, but because we don't have much hope for next year either.

I don't want to pile on Green, but what in the world has happened to him? He was so good as a sophomore, arguably the best player on the team down the stretch heading into the NCAAs. It's like he totally forgot how to play.

I don't think this team ends up being bad. I think I predicted them around the 100 mark, which seems about right. VCU was certainly a heartbreaker but we have more games to judge where we are. We've won the games we should have and got blown out in the 2 games we should have lostgot blown out in the 2 games we should have lost. If this year ends up being like last year, I don't think anyone will want Jones back. I don't see that being the case but time will tell.

Hopefully O'Connel and Shanu develop this year. We'll also have another developmental year from Reece, Ezikpe, Oliver, and Hunter and 3 guards coming in. Im not saying next year will be great or not but the cupboard is not bare for Jones or any other potential coach. I don't see why next year will be a significantly worse team.

I wish I knew about Green. Doesn't seem like he can regain his confidence. Im not sure if its the yips or not but whatever he's doing with his feet on a his jumpshots (i don't remember that in his fresh/soph year but maybe it was there) doesn't seem to be working.

You lost me at "got blown out in the 2 games we should have lost".

If ODU was where they should be with a veteran team like this, they should be a threat to win most any game, especially so against a rebuilding Maryland team and a rebuilding VCU team.

The time for making excuses or giving hopeful responses that maybe this player or that player will quickly improve has past. Players that sit the bench don't tend to improve. Players that didn't improve during the off season don't tend to improve during the season.

I agree with your statement that next season won't necessarily be worse. By the same token, this season won't necessarily be worse than last season either. Unfortunately, in both cases those statements aren't necessarily saying very much for the state of the teams.