(11-19-2020 02:57 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(11-19-2020 10:32 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-19-2020 10:21 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(11-19-2020 10:18 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(11-19-2020 10:10 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  Voted for Trump and wish he won, but I have to say the true evidence of actually overturning the result of the election is virtually zero. He's within his Constitutional right to investigate any potential fraud, but tweeting that he was the real winner without proven results is dangerously stupid.

If there isn't enough evidence, will he ever concede? It's a dangerous path our country is headed in.

Trump's mouth by far is his worst trait. He exaggerates more than anyone person should.

That being said, if he loses but shows there is election fraud, maybe, just maybe, the American people will demand stricter regulations as it comes to votes. I hear certain people saying that throwing out votes disenfranchises voters, but fake votes disenfranchises legal voters. This could be Trump's parting gift to the country.

That's not his end game though - if that was the true message he would be talking about that instead of tweeting "I Won!"

Look, there has been a coup to undo the 2016 election, I believe this, but thinking long term...not conceding after a close loss will further divide our nation and will be his lasting legacy 20 years from now. Similar to Al Gore.

Here is the dirty little secret about Trump. His tweets have never matched how he governs. His tweets sometimes have been strident and unpredictable. His actually governing decisions have been quite reasonable and stable. His main achievements—controlling runaway illegal immigration, changing “free” trade to “fair” trade, and bringing jobs back to America by creating a more business friendly climate (lower regulation and lower taxes) are his legacy gift to the public (along with a Covid vaccine).

There is literally nothing wrong or particularly controversial about his governance absent the tweets. Trump has tendency to think out loud via news conferences or tweets. It’s somewhat unconventional, but it’s largely the press that has deemed it a big deal. The rest of America seems to understand it really isn’t and likely re-elects him had the press not convinced them Covid was all Trumps fault.

Just this week he appointed the 33 year old wife of one of his staffers (also employee of the firm he hired to challenge the vote) to a federal judgeship for life. The bar association considered her unqualified as she has only taken part in two trials (both single day trials) and was only an intern. She has never taken a case to trial as primary or co-counsel since passing the bar.