(11-10-2020 08:46 AM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  So, I've been watching this thread and doing my best to learn for a while now, and I have a question for those who are already leaning toward a conclusion that the election was stolen: What would you have to see to make you believe otherwise? The current state of social media, blogs, and news sharing ensures that there will ALWAYS be another "source" that some are willing to believe in a highly uncritical manner (I'd actually say that this thread has shown that a time or two), and that doubt spreads quickly. We are in an age where we can easily find the "news" that supports our own opinions...so where do we go to find common ground?

If the president himself concedes, will that do it? I don't think it's too far of a stretch to imagine that simply not happening. (I do think all alleged misconduct should get the investigation it's due, by the way. We should all accept the idea that a legitimate investigation and recount could uncover details that change the outcome of the race.) But short of Trump himself saying the election wasn't rigged in a way that tilted it, who else holds any weight? It seems like Fox loses a little bit of their reputation with Trump supporters every time they disagree with him or show him in a negative light. Do they still have enough clout to make a difference?

I also recognize that this question can easily be reversed, to ask those who are already convinced the election was completely on the up and up what it would take for them to believe otherwise. That's fair, and I'd love to know that too, it's just not the main question I'm asking here.

Recount of especially mail in ballots in PA, WI, MI, AZ, Nevada, GA, NC with legit folks doing the auditing. Eliminate the ballots for non registered, dead people, out of state folks, double votes, ballots that arrived after the election, bad signatures, and in Wisconsin for example ballots with no witness .. which is a requirement. No way Trump won Ohio by 8 points and lost those states or barely won.