(08-08-2021 09:29 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(08-08-2021 05:30 PM)JSchmack Wrote:  

(08-08-2021 05:03 PM)solohawks Wrote:  20.02.5.4 Continuity. A multisport conference shall establish continuity. To establish continuity, a multisport conference must meet the requirements of Bylaw 20.02.5.1. In addition, the conference must meet the requirements of Bylaws 20.02.5.2 and 20.02.5.3 for a period of eight consecutive years. (Adopted: 1/15/11 effective 8/1/11)

Yes, they'd have done that... in Conference USA.

Look at the "Adopted" and "Effective" dates. They're before the Big East split (announced December 12, 2012).

And seven years after 2005, when the divorce by-law was written. The fact that the by-law written seven years before in light of the prevailing rule had been undermined by the new rule passed just the previous year would be the basis for the argument in their waiver application.

Quote: The Catholic 7 used that rule to stay a conference when they left the existing Big East. The future American had long-since established the continuity, so they could go forward with only three schools that had been in the Big East for 8 years, and add in a bunch of others without losing conference status; ...

So the AAC used the new rule, which is why it was the new Big East which had to make the waiver application, and the New Big East which had to apply for a vote to be entered as a Core Conference.

Quote: The view that the Big East was only allowed to do it because they're special is silly.

If the Big East was only allowed to do it because they were six years into a seven year clock on the old continuity rule when the old continuity rule was changed on them, that really is the kind of extraordinary circumstance that the waiver process is meant for.

Quote: A C-USA split would be rubber stamped just like the Big East was.

It wasn't rubber stamped. They had to argue their case. The fact that they had a reasonable case to argue would have made that easier. Also the fact that the Power Conferences would have been happy to lubricate the loss of power status by the American couldn't have done their case any damage.

CUSA doesn't have a case to argue. They didn't have a membership of 14 when the old continuity rule was in place, never mind an explicit bylaw written to operate under the old continuity rule. They would just be arguing that they wish the rule was not in place and would like to be allowed to ignore it, please. Plus the power conferences would be lobbying for the rules to be respected and for the waiver committee to do its job and not to be turned into a "nobody has to obey any rules so long as they ask nicely" committee.

Bruce is correct.

The Big East got approved as they planned a split by the old rules which were changed after the fact.

cusa Cannot argue this.

A new conference will have to establish continuity
That is NOT done by X number of schools playing together for Y years

It is done by the new conference meeting the multisport conference requirements for 8 years