(06-30-2020 03:20 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(06-30-2020 02:57 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(06-30-2020 02:34 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(06-28-2020 09:08 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(06-28-2020 07:48 AM)Jugnaut Wrote:  Obviously fake news. There is no upside for Russia to pay bounties on US soldier deaths. Instead, there is a huge downside in that it could be considered an act of war. Additionally, Russia previously fought the Taliban in the 90s so they are probably not on good terms.

Why would you believe anything from the MSM/NYT. All their gotcha stories end up false. Remember the rule, give it 24 hours to fall apart before you guys run with it. Will save you a lot of embarrassment.

Don't put anything at all past the Russians. They are like an angry woman, they never forget and they can bide their time until the right moment to slap you down. They are shrewd, devious, cold and calculating as hell. That said I don't buy any of the crap they NYT puts out.

Putin was part of the cold war. From all of the news of the last four years (including Helsinki, remember Helsinki), the president has not shown a lot of balls against Putin, although I can't substantiate this because it is ion lock and key.

Im not sure where you get this. The president has blasted Germany over it Russian pipeline deal. Trump has blasted the Russian proxies (as well as actual Russian mercenaries in Syria). Trump actually sold Ukraine lethal aide, something Obama refused to do. Trump has not lifted the sanctions against Russia, though Putin has asked.

Honestly, the only remotely "pro-Russian" thing we have done is getting our troops out of the Middle East after two decades of death. Even that makes sense as we spend a bunch of money and lives there for nothing really--since we are now essentially energy independent and dont really have a vested interest in the area any longer.

Personally---with the Chinese acting up, it would save us a lot of money and trouble if we could make nice with the Russians and get them to align with us against China. It would be MUCH easier to keep China in check if we didnt have to worry about Russia acting up in Europe. I really could care less if they make Syria a proxy state. The Middle East is nothing but trouble. If they want to start seeing body bags returned to Russia in exchange for empty sand, have at it.

I have a lot of respect for you. I try to keep an open mind but where has he kept the Russian gov't in line.
As far as the Middle East, I, like my father, who passed away a few years ago, did not like the US backing the countries like Saudi Arabia and Iraq. Getting out was good news.
Chinese acting up. More than the Russian gov't. I am far from being educated about foreign affairs, but as far as the Chinese compared to the Russians, with their actions in the last decade with assassinations and attacks with other nations, what is the difference.
The only difference that has been noted is the chance that the Russian gov't has paid to kill US soldiers. Whether it is true or not, is to be seen. Whether the President knew about it and did nothing, is another.

And it's been established that if this actually DID happen, it was during the last Admin. Why is this now Trumps issue?

Unless of course it is continuing. Course we also have very little evidence it ever happened at all.