(06-19-2020 04:04 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  One reason I use the Shanghai List is I know that for at least the target market of Chinese parents funding Chinese student's foreign University education, top 50 and top 100 (in the world) mean a lot and not being on the list at all is also a signal.

Chinese English Language major programs are sold based on what percentage of graduates go to grad school in the top 50 and top 100 ... or if the top 50 number is too discouraging, top 100 and top 200.

I don't have the time right now to go through the Shanghai List to do counts by tiers, but my impression is the top of that conference ranking above would have a very similar order ranked in that way ... the PAC-12 might be ranked higher, because the median PAC-12 school is probably ranked above the average, as geography is a bigger constraint on the PAC-12 than on the Big Ten.

Actually looking at the Shanghai rankings (Shanghairanking.com), I didn't really see any Division 2 schools. For FBS and maybe some of Division 3, the Shanghai List is fine, but that's it. ECU, UCF and USM were all on the Shanghai List , surprisingly enough compared to the glut of P5 schools on there. UAB was on there also, but that's not a surprise to me.