(07-30-2020 10:12 AM)georgewebb Wrote:  

(07-30-2020 08:53 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(07-30-2020 08:31 AM)georgewebb Wrote:  

(07-22-2020 07:17 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(07-22-2020 06:24 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  The fireworks were commercial grade mortar launched pieces, mind you.




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Quite the scorecard your side ran up over the weekend there, lefties. All in one location as well.

But hey, the Feds should just stay put inside their own courthouse according to one poster here.

Rioters are unquestionably going too far with some tactics. Remember when I criticized the fed’s methods because they were likely to escalate tensions? Looks like I wasn’t too far off on that criticism. And I seem to be right that, had they not decided to start rounding up individuals and specifically remained defensive around the building they were meant to protect, there’s a good chance this escalation wouldn’t have occurred.

You’re basically advocating for the actions that have led to this **** show, which is a bit odd.

I wonder also, are you also looking at injuries sustained by some of the protestors? What was the scorecard there? We know there’s at least one broken hand on an elderly navy vet.

While Portland had these protests ongoing for weeks, it has literally exploded since the Feds overstepped and basically antagonized the protestors.

For decades we have been reminded that the victims of rape are not at fault for being raped; that regardless of their actions, they did not "ask for it" or "have it coming"; and that their attackers are not excused by perceived or real grievances against the specific victim, or women in general, or society as a whole. Rather, the complete list of causes of rape is as follows:
1. Rapists.

The list of causes of battery, looting and arson is similarly succinct.

Not exactly a great analogy when you have plenty of people involved in the protests that haven't rioted themselves, so they haven't committed an act worthy of a show of force from LEOs.

Are you arguing that people exercising their 1st Amendment rights are rightfully treated as rioters in how LEOs respond because of the actions of others at the protest? Because that's the way I read it if you're saying all of those who have been impacted by LEOs' use of force have had it coming (including press and observers).

Holy cow, that's a really twisted reading of what I wrote. I was pretty explicit that "had it coming" theories are NOT correct.

Then again, perhaps I too have adopted the sort of doublespeak in which words like "abolish", "defund", and "literally" mean things other than abolish, defund, and literally.

Sorry, the way you structured the reply using the term “we’ve been reminded” seemed like you were at odds with what was being reminded - that others were reminding “us” and “we” were not exactly accepting of the reminder.

There were a lot of topics covered in the reply you responded to - the escalation of tensions, the increased rioting, the violence against protestors by LEOs.

Can you flesh it out a bit more?