(07-16-2020 12:04 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(07-16-2020 11:43 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-16-2020 11:32 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(07-16-2020 10:29 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(07-16-2020 09:41 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  that nobody sowed anything but somehow things still ended up poorly for them (Breonna Taylor). The jury is out as to whether that happens more often with black folks (and if there is any intent from the standpoint of the police when race is involved).

You seem to be undecided on what you think, citing "nobody sowed anything" in the first sentence, but then questioning if there was "any intent from the standpoint of the police" in the next sentence.
Here's the way I handle that question: I try to imagine the scenario that would include intent.
For example: there was a meeting at Joe Cop's house of a bunch of white officers, and they thought it would be fun to go kill a random black woman under the guise of serving a warrant at the wrong address. The plan was met with much enthusiasm and so that is what they did.
Does this really seem realistic to you? I think it is more likely that a UFO swooped down and took over their brains. Yes, literally, more likely to involve extraterrestrials than planned murder.
Now, maybe you can imagine a different scenario that would include intent. If so, tell us what it is. If not, then you got some 'splaining to do.

I guess you’ve never heard of, or don’t believe in, unconscious bias?

But how does unconscious bias enter into OO's hypothetical? How do you change his facts to make it unconscious bias?

Because it allows the knee jerk response of racism.

Breonna is a terrible result of police negligence. So is the shooting ofJustine Damond (blonde blue eyed Australian). Yet Breonna is now set forth as a victim of racism, and now 'unconscious bias', all without a single reference to the entire population of such victims as a whole.

Dont like comments on resisting, rephrase that as "Floyd didnt deserve to die for resisting". While ignoring the 'but for' causation issue.... Floyd doesnt resist, Floyd most probably doesnt die. But lets just dab that over with the 'deserve' thingy.

Dont like comments on resisting, magically invoke 'plenty' of innocents without any basis whatsoever.

Now the example of an innocent comes up, yet any mention of any other non-racial instance is conveniently left out,

Now we have 'unconscious bias' as the safety line as 93 grasps to inject racial component into any instance he can.

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