(06-16-2020 08:27 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Funny thing with 93's now in vogue definition of 'engaging', the comment of 'Lets not [talk about it]' is as equally 'engaging' as his defenses of his crap list of 'issues'.

But viewpoint matters in 93-world -- thus 'Lets not' is not just not engaging, it is "flippant" (per the expert, no less).

Amazing **** we are learning here in 93-world.

The referenced thread turned into a discussion of the black student's experience on the Rice campus.

owl at the moon wrote:

Quote:Night Owl,
Thank you for starting this thread, and providing your perspectives. I think there is a lot of good conversation here, and room for plenty more.

Your notes about being confronted walking across campus could have happened anywhere in the US back then, and probably still today.

I am glad that your refusal to stop didn’t escalate, as it very well could have in some jurisdictions other than Rice.

The main point I wanted to make in this post (besides that I hear you and believe that I understand what you are saying) is that:

1. The first time you were stopped sounds racist. Racial profiling has been justified in some circles but it is still racist.
2. The tenth time? That’s an order of magnitude worse. Rice has never had that many students and never had that many officers. When I was there, we all knew a lot of the patrol officers and they knew a lot of us. What that tells me, is that if those officers were looking at you as a human and as a student, they would have remembered you the next time, or certainly the time or two after that.

I have more random thoughts on racism and elitism... and Rice. let’s keep the thread and discussion going

Ourland then responded with :

Quote:Let's not.

MerseyOwl then came onto this thread and referenced this exchange and called Ourland's response "Absolute cowardice".

Because I didn't remember anything that was horrifying when I originally read the thread, I asked him about it. He cited the post and I went back and looked at it. I then replied back to MerseyOwl something that should have read as, "Oh... I see what you mean. Yeah... that was pretty flippant". FWIW I'm not sure which of these individuals are leftists, Trumpists, libertarians, or none of the above. This was not a partisan attack.

This "flippant" thing is not a hill that I'm especially interested in dying on. I do believe that it was a pretty flippant response to owl at the moon's earnest discussion but it didn't send me over the edge. Not sure why it has done so for you.