(05-30-2020 06:28 PM)Keeper Wrote:  

(05-30-2020 04:28 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 04:03 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 03:53 PM)Stammers Wrote:  Just the top 8 is enough. 1 versus 8 will probably be a blowout since 1 versus 4 often is. If you are #5 or an undefeated G5 you have a legitimate gripe. If you are #9 with an automatic bid to the top G5 and you don't make it, too bad.

An auto bid to the top G5 works in at least one of two ways. It takes bias out of the picture and allows G5 to be ranked fairly throughout the season and takes the guesswork out of the equation. Also, if it so happens that the G5 representative isn't that good, it allows the #1 team in the country almost a bye week; it rewards them for being #1.

.....so I guess you want to reduce the # of march madness teams from 64 to 32 or 16--because we certainly can't have a 1vs16. The beauty of sports---is the GIANT upset. EVERY conference champion should play in the playoffs. Why do you want to screw the little guy ?

This is football; nobody and nobody said anything about reducing the field in basketball so your thoughts seem more than a little bit scattered. I'll be a good sport and play along.

In basketball, you can play 3 regular season games in 7 days, 4 conference tournament games in 4 days and then 4 games in as little as 9 days in the NCAA tournament. You don't have that luxury when you can only play 1 game per week.

You may also not have noticed, but NCAA basketball champions play 40 games. You also may not have noticed but football players get injured a lot more than basketball players do.

To summarize your argument, you are saying that the national champion in football should have to win 6 games, correct?

Yep college basketball champions play 40 games, and college football champions play 15 games. With a 16 team playoff the football champion would play 17 games. With the quarterfinals 4 games played on Jan 1 the national championship game would be played between Jan 15 and 20. Most teams would still play 12 or 13 games, and all but 4 teams would play 15 or fewer games. Get your head around that.

More Importantly get your head around having the first National Champion of College Football. If every team that tees it up in the first week of the season doesn't have a chance at winning the title there is no national champion. There is only an invitational champion just like every winner of any bowl game.

Wouldn't you really rather have a national champion?

Your argument and the other guy's don't make sense. It sounds like a good idea, but it isn't well thought out. Here it is in point form.

- The top 40 teams basketball teams make it, in a 16 team football playoff, only the top 8 or so are sure to have a chance to make it

- In a 68 team tournament, there is room for 20 potential cinderellas. In a 16 team tournament, there isn't. Not when you are eliminating teams in the top 10 prior to it.

- Basketball teams can play up to 4 games a week and 40 games, football the max is 15, which is already a lot

- Going into the CCG schedule LAST YEAR, the #9,10,11,12,14,15,16,18 teams would have been eliminated because they didn't play in the CCG game

- Only 2 teams ranked from 9-16 would have made a 16 team playoff last year.

- Notre Dame #15 eliminated, there would have to be a Notre Dame solution

- If you think right now a lot of players don't play in bowl games, how many do you think will opt out of a potential 4 game playoff? None?

- In the 1 versus 4 matchup the average margin of victory in the 6 games has been 23.3 points, with the closest game at 11 points. You think it would be interesting to add unranked teams and teams barely ranked?

- The only viable solution that might work would be to eliminate every CCG; which will never happen in 100 years.

- The reason why only the top 8 had a shot last year, is because you can't allow a team into the playoff if they don't play in the CCG and play one less game than everyone else. So your 16 team playoff looks like an 8 team playoff anyway.

LAST YEAR 16 TEAM PLAYOFF (All conference winners plus CCG participant wildcards)
Lots of matchups that will be lopsided, 9 Florida, 10 Penn State, 12 Auburn, 13 Bama, 14 Michigan not eligible

1 LSU - UR Miami, OH
2 Ohio State - UR FAU
3 Clemson - 24 Virginia (rematch of ACC CCG, Clemson won by 44 points)
4 Oklahoma - 20 Appalachian State
5 Georgia - 19 Boise State
6 Oregon - 17 Memphis (GREAT matchup for us!)
7 Baylor - 15 Notre Dame (assume ND joins a league or else ineligible)
8 Wisconsin - 11 Utah

LAST YEAR TOP 8 WITH G5 (Mostly great matchups)
1 LSU - 17 Memphis
2 Ohio State - 7 Baylor
3 Clemson - 6 Oregon
4 Oklahoma - 5 Georgia

16 teams is just too many. Too many games, too much risk of injury, you eliminate many top teams before the CCG, and tons of players won't play in them. 8 is the perfect number. IF you are #4 and getting clobbered by #1 every year, you sure don't have a compelling argument if you are #8 even if you are ranked ahead of the top G5. As I mentioned, the G5 entrant is either worthy, or they are a reward for being the #1 seed.

Did I "get my head around" this and that well enough for you? Let me know, it's super important to me.