(04-29-2020 12:15 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(04-29-2020 12:11 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(04-29-2020 11:59 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

Quote: [my] opinion[] that Kaepernick wasn't talented enough to play in the NFL.

Perhaps you may wish to re-read my comment on Kaep, his strengths, his weaknesses, and the quaint things called 'offensive schemes'. If you want to grossly mischaracterize those comments, feel free to do so. Like you have done above, mind you.

Hint: if you have a RPO-strength QB with high ratings, that doesnt make him an even sufficient choice for an air-raid scheme, or for a West Coast scheme. Warren Moon rocked the world in the run and shoot, putting him in a Walsh/Seiffert style offense would have been disastrous.

The funny thing is that the NFL has developed more towards an offensive philosophy more akin to Kaepernick's strengths. But Kaepernick has studiously refused to engage playing, and now has a gap of four years without a snap. My guess is that if had taken a backup elsewhere, which he was offered, there are more teams NOW looking for RPO-style quarterbacks -- which 4 years ago were not very common and those schemes were run only by a maybe two teams.

But you kind of blindly point to raw stats and player polls as *the* metrics, without ever bothering to consider the QB style and the schemes where he could be effective at that time in history.

So as an NFL GM, do you 'buy up the big stat QB' and revamp your entire roster and offensive scheme for that QB? Apparently you would. Others might say, lets get a QB that we dont have to upend the entire scheme and roster for. But funnily you dont consider that, and simply flail away that 'those who dont think Kaep a good fit' as saying 'Kaep cannot play'. Hopefully your background in French Art History provided you at least that level of ability to distinguish those positions. (yeah, there is an intentional troll there)

I wasn't looking at stats and metrics. I was simply remembering that most people that I listened to when it was a hot issue felt that Kaepernick was a better QB (politics aside) than many QB's on current rosters and that without the kneeling controversy that he would still be in the NFL. This poll published in January, 2019 seems to confirm my recollection of NFL experts at the time.

Remember when Deshaun Watson went out with the ACL in 2017 and the Texans apparently considered Kaepernick but turned to Tom Savage instead? Some might say Kaepernick was a bitter fit as a Watson replacement (despite Savage's experience with the team). Deandre Hopkins seemed to think so.

And in that one fell swoop you dismiss the opinions of all of the GM, the head coach, *and* the offensive coordinator, apparently. In favor of a wide receiver's opinion. Got it.

Thank you for making my point so clearly for me, 93.

As for 'stats and metrics', for a guy that 'wasn't looking at them', you certainly did fly to that particular point very explicitly right off the bat. But now you 'dont look at them'. Again, got it.

Sorry... when exactly did I do this?

You're not referring to the player's poll that I linked?