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(08-26-2020 11:21 AM)MickMack Wrote:  

(08-26-2020 09:41 AM)bearcats23 Wrote:  

(08-25-2020 10:22 PM)MickMack Wrote:  

(08-25-2020 10:12 PM)bearcats23 Wrote:  Simple question from me...should we wear masks and social distance as a society every flu season? If your answer to that question is no but you believe we should social distance and wear masks now during covid then I genuinely want to understand your thought process.

I've had many coffee appointments and outdoor drinks with friends and business contacts. Had lunch out with the family on Sunday. Attended an outdoor wedding earlier this month. In all of those instances I wore a mask when appropriate and did my best to space out as best I can. Is this really that hard? I'm not so brittle that wearing a mask and taking reasonable precautions crumbles my existence. Hope it gets better for you.

You didn't answer my question. I'm trying to determine why we don't bother social distancing and wearing masks during flu season while tens of thousands of Americans die but we do for COVID. Apparently 30k - 80k annual deaths is no biggie.

If a business or place I'm going to requests that I wear a mask I will put one on, I'm not one of those guys that storms in without one to try and prove a point, I will wear one.

The point I'm making is the media and liberal politicians are blowing it up to be more dangerous than it is for political gain, and the statistics are simply not backing up the hype. If you don't believe this is happening then you need to get your head out of the sand. There's a huge double standard since we know the flu is deadly, in fact it's more deadly for children than COVID, yet we never legislate social distancing and wearing masks during flu season. Just trying to understand if it becomes an issue once you cross over a certain number of deaths, and if so how many have to die before we change our behavior.

It's definitely not crumbling my existence, quite the opposite. Back in May when we started seeing real data and learning that the 3-6% mortality rate that the media pumped looked more like 0.2 - 0.6% I went back to life as normal.

I'd love to see your sources for those numbers on both average flu deaths and covid mortality rate.

I mentioned that back in May we started seeing more data that showed a mortality rate closer to 0.2% - 0.6% compared to the 3-6% BS that the media was pumping at the time. This correlates to when the CDC revised their estimated mortality rate to be 0.26%, as referenced in the link below dated May 27th.

http://www.fccoop.org/?p=10552

The CDC has revised their numbers to the 0.26% no longer shows up on their website, looks like their latest estimate is closer to the 0.5% or 0.6% as referenced on their website now.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nco...arios.html

I've read articles that other studies are saying their best estimate at this point is 0.4%. Either way, we had fear mongering numbers of 3% - 6% pumped down our throats for 3 months and the media has been pretty quiet in publishing the real numbers now that we know it's a fraction of their original projection.

With regards to the flu it looks like the official CDC numbers say 12,000 - 61,000 die annually. I know I read that the 2018 season had a projected 80,000 deaths, which is why I had that number in my head. The first link is the CDC official estimates, and the second is a 2018 article which references the CDC's estimate of 80,000 deaths at that time.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/ind...ce%202010.

https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/26/cdc-...hs-winter/

The bottom line is that we ignore the tens of thousands of flu deaths annually, but we are self destructing over COVID. I assume there's only two explanations, one is that the lives of the tens of thousands of flu cases don't matter, or two is that the media and liberals are pumping this thing to cause maximum disruption heading into November.