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(07-06-2020 12:40 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

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(07-06-2020 11:12 AM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  

(07-06-2020 10:33 AM)converrl Wrote:  Even with the uptick in mortality, after the numbers get adjusted, this will be on par with the flu.

Either go for it or go home.

Covid deaths are already AT LEAST double what last year's entire flu season deaths were (~24k-62k).

When you say "after the numbers get adjusted" you're just arbitrarily deciding to suppress the death toll to whatever you deem appropriate.

I'm guessing when it comes to the flu, however, youd be happy to go with the high end estimate of 60k for all of 2019.

Which would still be half of what coronavirus has done in 3 months.



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And when you just say "covid deaths" you're basically just doing the same thing by not looking at that figure without scrutiny.

About 1/4 of those "covid deaths" are nursing home/assisted living facility residents.

A large majority of the remainder are over 65 and heaven only knows how many of the listed death toll didn't actually die from covid19 and were just added to inflate the number.

So you just can't throw out "covid deaths" and act like the risk is the same for everybody, which it clearly is not.

However, the BS about covid19 changes from week to week to keep everyone in a frenzy. One week it's this. One week it's that. The next week it's something else. Masks don't work. Masks will save us all.

Heck, back in the beginning it was going to kill 2.2 million of us, right? ... but that was only until they could get us all locked up.

If we could just get the truth, we can make intelligent decisions. But, that's never going to happen.



Heaven only knows

I know you think all the death toll numbers are inaccurate, but I'll give you a personal anecdote of it working the other way. I have a client who fell in a nursing home around a year ago and broke her hip. She gets transferred to a different nursing home and then COVID happens. Her nursing home does a terrible job preventing it and ends up having 15 accounted for deaths. She catches covid but gets transferred to a hospital. She recovers from covid but goes from 105 pounds to around 72 in a month. She passes away 3 weeks later due to a general failure to thrive and the death certificate doesn't say anything about covid and its not being counted as a COVID death.

I get that, but I'd bet that there's 10X more on the opposite scenario for every one like that. But that's only a guess because we'll never know.

The medical leadership has been, at best, horribly inaccurate and at worst misleading in their reporting.

I'm sorry, I don't believe a dang thing lord Fauci says. I don't have to be a genius to know BS when I smell it.

"I'd bet" isn't a reliable method of calculation. Are the numbers perfect? Of course not. But the notion that "we'll never know" is stupid. Of course we know. A lot of people have died from covid.