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(06-05-2020 08:42 AM)converrl Wrote:  

(06-04-2020 08:27 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(06-04-2020 03:49 PM)converrl Wrote:  

(06-04-2020 03:31 PM)geef Wrote:  

(06-04-2020 11:55 AM)converrl Wrote:  Your are hilarious! Does the development on either side of the Riverfront get built without a major league presence? No. Do you lose millennials and young professionals without major league presence? Yes. Does that cut into the downtown economy? Yes.

Find me a major metropolitan area without a major league presence...they are few and far between. The fact that a franchise is not successful does not mean that it will remain so...ask the New Orleans Saints or the Philadelphia Eagles or Denver Broncos...all of which were perennial doormats at one time...hell...throw in the Cubs and Braves if you want an example from MLB.

I know you hate MB and the Bengals, but MB will be dead soon and new ownership will take over...at that point, anything can happen. Major league sports are a DRAW, plain and simple. They aren't the sum total of the economy, but they certainly contribute.

Like I said, I don't want to turn Cincinnati into Dayton.

The city that I live in, Portland, has one of the most thriving, livable urban cores of any North American city. We don't have pro football or baseball. Columbus is another example. And Sacramento. And San Antonio. Plenty of smaller cities - Asheville, Portland (Maine), etc - have great cores without baseball and football.

San Antonio--NBA Spurs
Columbus--NHL Blue Jackets--it's also a state capital...most state capitals are large due to the presence of state government in those cities.
Sacremento--NBA Kings

Asheville, Portalnd ME aren't major metropolitan areas..they are mid-size urban areas, but smaller than Cleveland, Chicago, NYC, NO, LA, SF, SD, Atlanta etc...

I hope you could use context clues to realize you're literally geographically the furthest you possibly could be from being right.

When did Portland outgrow NYC, LA, SF and Chicago...hell...I'll throw in Houston, Dallas, Atlanta and Cleveland for good measure...

You said Portland, ME on that last message, he is referring to Portland, OR as being the example to follow in comparison to Cincinnati, he threw in the other Portland as an example of a smaller city with a strong core, of which there are many more examples.

Also, Portland's CSA is larger than the city you're arguing would crumble to dust if it didn't have the Bengals (by about a million people)...and they don't have an NFL team...