(01-29-2020 09:54 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  Herb didn't have any charisma, but he was a good basketball mind. He recruited players that fit his system well too. At the end of the day he wasn't technically fired. I think the school was fine with him as their coach, but I do think he was took the Arizona State job because of the unreasonable expectations of the fan base.

The fact that he entered his final season or 2 (not exactly sure what his contract situation was at the time) without an extension is basically like being fired. Not unlike the Brownell situation. He was run out of town.

It's certainly hard to argue he WASN'T treated unfairly by State. He won a lot of games coming off the awful Les Robinson era, and ran a squeaky clean program. But that wasn't enough, so State went searching for greener grass that just isn't there. And still might not be, if Keatts doesn't get things turned around by next year or so.

A failure for Keatts to take the program to the "next level" will be evidence that its just not that good of a job, and they'll never be able to compete at the top of the ACC like the fans and boosters want them to.