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RE: 2020 Presidential Horse Race Thread
(10-22-2019 11:05 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(10-22-2019 10:42 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(10-22-2019 09:48 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  
(10-22-2019 09:42 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(10-22-2019 09:24 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  My understanding is that is factually untrue.


What part is untrue?

The investigation part - there was no active investigation at the time of ousting, and it was more likely that the company would come under more scrutiny with the prosecutor gone.

The second clause is a wonderful regurgitation of Slate and Vox viewpoints (i.e. spoon fed to them). Dont know how true that is. You dont know either. But it is a wonderful ex post facto rationale. Opinion, not fact in the slightest.

Also, why was he ousted? Why was it such a big deal to Biden that he be gone that he threatened to withhold funds? And wouldn’t that be a quid pro quo?

The international community and the US wanted to oust someone who wasn't investigating corruption.

Quote:For one thing, Ukrainian prosecutors and anti-corruption advocates who were pushing for an investigation into the dealings of Burisma and its owner, Mykola Zlochevskiy, said the probe had been dormant long before Biden leveled his demand...

Activists say the case had been sabotaged by Shokin himself. As an example, they say two months before Hunter Biden joined Burisma's board, British authorities had requested information from Shokin's office as part of an investigation into alleged money laundering by Zlochevskiy. Shokin ignored them.

"Ironically, Joe Biden asked Shokin to leave because the prosecutor failed [to pursue] the Burisma investigation, not because Shokin was tough and active with this case," Kaleniuk said.

Ukrainian prosecutors have described no evidence indicating that Biden sought to help his son by getting Shokin dismissed -- and have suggested that they have not discovered any such evidence.

But there is a long list of Western organizations, governments, and diplomats, as well as Ukrainian anti-corruption groups, that wanted to see Shokin fired.

They include the International Monetary Fund, the European Union, the U.S. government, foreign investors, and Ukrainian advocates of reform.

https://www.rferl.org/a/why-was-ukraine-...81445.html
10-22-2019 11:38 AM
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