(10-22-2019 06:38 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(10-21-2019 08:40 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(10-21-2019 07:50 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(10-21-2019 03:08 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(10-18-2019 04:54 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Seriously? Ham, you need to take off the Trump-does-no-wrong glasses.

Trump has done nothing but provide evidence that he wants to feather his own nest on the taxpayer.

The G-7 is being held at a Trump resort, when it more easily could be held at Camp David. We have evidence of the government staying at Trump properties after he was elected when it makes no sense and is egregious (see Pence's trip to Ireland) - not just random diplomats staying at his hotels. His tax cut made him large sums of money. His company continues to operate and make foreign deals, even after he said they wouldn't. And I'm sure the list goes on.

Seriously? Lad, you need to put on some reading glasses. Nowhere and in no way did I say Trump does no wrong. I realize this is your 'go to' claim against others when you've run out of facts, but I don't play that game.

Specifically to your comment, I said 'I don't care' as long as the price paid is the equivalent as other similar places. If that is the case, then the tax payer is indifferent. He isn't making money by cheating the taxpayer.... Like the guy who builds a 'bridge to nowhere' in order to get kickbacks/contributions from donors or those who get 'no bid' contracts.

So I specifically addressed your issue, and you ignore it because YOU need to get off the 'Trump does nothing NOT wrong' sauce.

I didn't say it wasn't wrong, in fact I said it's not 'cool', which in my verbiage means, I wish he wouldn't do it.... I said I don't care about it because they have to go SOMEWHERE, and the taxpayer isn't paying more than they otherwise would.... and you're simply flat out WRONG about what Trump's businesses said they would do or are required to do.

There hasn't been a President in the past 50+ years who hasn't increased the value of their property or other holdings simply by virtue of their being elected. The question for me, as I very clearly stated, was whether the taxpayer was paying for something the didn't otherwise need to pay for... or paying more for the same thing.

If you want to draw the line in a different place, feel free... but your accusation about me is absolutely baseless.

It’s not baseless when the VP stays a significantly longer distance away from where he is going, which increases travel costs. It’s almost as if there are more costs for people traveling than just nightly rates...

Trump has shown little evidence he wants to avoid lining his pockets while president (note that no president in 50+ years has done the book deals you speak of while in office), by making it abundantly clear that you can curry favor by staying at his properties and enriching him.

Your retort about 'baseless' has zero connection to Ham's comment of what he considers baseless, that is which is directed to "your accusation about [him]." As is 85% of his post. You are on quite the roll lately.

Uh, no it doesn’t. Ham asked about drawing the line differently, as he was only looking at the cost of the rooming, and if so, my accusation was baseless. I said my accusation wasn’t baseless because the cost to the tax payer is wholistic and includes more than just the cost of the room...

Read the fing first paragraph of his lad. That is, the one containing about your claim *against* HIM. i.e. THIS one: "Nowhere and in no way did I say Trump does no wrong. I realize this is your 'go to' claim against others when you've run out of facts, but I don't play that game."

Next read his comment on WHAT is baseless: "If you want to draw the line in a different place, feel free... but your accusation about me is absolutely baseless." Do you understand now what Ham labeling as baseless? YOUR. ACCUSATION. *ABOUT*. [HAM]. Then you go and ignore that. Twice if we count your comment back to me.

Instead, you reply that the comment about Trump blah blah *isnt* baseless. All without even bothering to respond to Ham. Let alone your previous ignoring your ham handed lobbing of that grenade at me.

Good god, I mean you cant even bother to admit that you brought me into this rather blindly, then whine about me commenting. Funny that. Then whine about me 'not making an equivalent comment against OO.' Nice move, lob a superlative allegation at a target then ***** like royal about them being unfair when they have the audacity to respond. Or just change the object of discussion when responding like you did to Ham.

For a guy that whines about someone else always having to right, you sure as hell dodge every hickey in your comments like an experienced carny. Just fing amazing.

By the way, at least two paragraphs and half of another were noted as your ability to label Ham as 'always for Trump'. Not the 85% I noted before.