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RE: 2020 Presidential Horse Race Thread
(08-26-2019 06:54 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I will comment on your points.

(08-25-2019 11:07 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  Democrat candidates actual proposals;
1) Open borders - drop-dead show-stopper for me
2) Abolish ICE - drop-dead show-stopper for me
3) Switch from Constitutionally controlled republic to Socialism - I think "switch" is a bit strong, but certainly tending strongly in that direction
4) The Green New Deal - drop-dead show-stopper for me
5) Government funded abortions for all - drop-dead show-stopper for me
6) Abortions up to the point of birth and infanticide after - drop-dead show-stopper for me
7) Increased taxes - we need additional tax revenues to balance the budget, but we are not going to get there by raising tax rates for the "rich" and corporations; I much prefer the Bowles-Simpson/Domenici-Rivlin approach, lower and flatter rates with broader definition of taxable income (fewer exclusions and deductions), with consumption tax (D-R only); this is the logical extension of the Reagan/Bill Bradley/Dick Gephart 1986 tax law
8) Elimination of the 2nd Amendment - I wouldn't say eliminate. but definitely emasculate, and for something that won't work; without te 2nd Amendment, all the rest are worthless; drop-dead show-stopper for me
9) Overhaul of the 1st Amendment - without the 1st and 2nd (and 4th and 10th, which both parties seem fine with ending) Amendments, all the rest are really, really worthless; drop-dead show-stopper for me
10) Free healthcare for illegal aliens - drop-dead show-stopper for me
11) Free college education for all - drop-dead show-stopper for me; not everybody needs to go to university; we need to beef up our vocational education at both the HS and community college levels
12) Free healthcare for all - do Bismarck universal private care and be done and dusted; single-payer/single-provider is a drop-dead show-stopper for me
13) Male to female trans abortions rights - drop-dead show-stopper for me
14) Voting age lowered to 16-years-old - oppose
15) Felons voting from prison - drop-dead show-stopper for me
16) Free childcare - this is not really a bad idea; we need to reorient our whole welfare system toward getting people to work, and this helps that
17) Guaranteed income even for those unwilling to work - I support replacing our current welfare system with a subsistence level universal basic income, using either Milton Friedman's negative income tax or the Boortz-Linder prebate/prefund; that plus Bismarck health care plus a minimum wage job (at today's MW) would put anyone above the poverty line; nobody falls through the cracks, and you eliminate the "welfare trap"/"poverty trap"; that's not what democrats are talking about here, and their approach is another drop-dead show-stopper for me
18) Government eliminating all current student debt with tax dollars - drop-dead show-stopper for me
19) Expansion (packing) of the Supreme Court - I'd go with 12 justices, one from each federal judicial circuit and one from the DC Circuit, to get some intellectual diversity; senior justice would be Chief Justice and non-voting except to break a tie (which can only happen with 11 if there is a vacancy or somebody recuses)
20) Elimination of the Electoral College - drop-dead show-stopper for me
21) Reparations for blacks - drop-dead show-stopper for me
22) Reparations for gays and lesbians - drop-dead show-stopper for me
23) Forced busing of school children - I don't think this is necessarily all bad, but there should be other alternatives
24) Bribe young adults into national service with taxpayer funds - I think the bribe things like debt forgiveness are awful; but what I would support is some sort of two-year universal service requirement, that could be military, Peace Corps, AmeriCorps VISTA, or the like; that's very un-libertarian of me, but I am very concerned about division in this country, and this strikes me as one way to fix it; as a Vietnam vet acquaintance once told me, "It's hard to be a racist after a black man drags your ass out off a rice paddy"
25) Pushing constant racial division - yes, they do, and this is a drop-dead show-stopper for me

I won't comment on Trump, because I'm not a fan--except by comparison to the alternatives.

I appreciate the clarity your response provides. Would be interested in the same from, say Lad, among others, if they'd care to comment as you did. Thanks, Owl#s.
08-26-2019 01:31 PM
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