(09-03-2019 03:46 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(09-03-2019 12:43 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(09-03-2019 11:37 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(09-03-2019 11:24 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(09-03-2019 10:49 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  This is why I do not trust the studies the left wants. The left sees guns as a campaign issue, and wants no compromise.

A bad economy and more gun deaths: the dream for those tasked with winning elections for the Democrats. (not you foot soldiers)

Wants no compromise? Are you kidding me? Things the left want range from ban certain guns, to implementing red flag laws, to expanding background checks. I look at those options and see a wide range of paths forward.

The right, at the moment wants nothing.

Which of those positions provides compromises?

The right wants changes that produce results, instead of making changes for the sake of being able to say on the campaign trail that they did something.

Banning certain guns and expanding background checks will not produce results. They have not produced results in the past.

I am already on record as favoring red flag laws, something you guys keep conveniently forgetting. When yall actually propose one, maybe we can talk specifics.

Ok - have I said you aren't? You don't represent the entirety of the right, or even conservative politicians. I see some elected officials on the right advocating for these laws, but they have not gained traction.

I actually posted an article earlier in this thread that highlighted how an Oregon red-flag law was used to remove guns from a former Marine.

And my response was? Nothing. I am fine with removing guns from individuals who have given evidence they are unstable. Kind of the definition of a red flag law, no? Way different than stupid things like more of the same, and banning guns that are responsible for a tiny minority of shootings. Those are just feel good moves, so some Democrat can get up in front of a crowd and say they are doing something.

You were responding to me, and you listed those areas. "The right wants nothing".

At least I differentiated your leaders from you followers.

OO - I responded to your quote, which is about what the left wants, with my take on what the right wants. See:

Quote:This is why I do not trust the studies the left wants. The left sees guns as a campaign issue, and wants no compromise.

I'm glad that you seem to be interested in attempting to curve gun violence with proactive approaches. That is much more than many of the compatriots on the right want to do. I hope more follow your lead.