(07-04-2019 01:15 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(07-04-2019 06:40 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(07-03-2019 07:21 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(07-03-2019 06:52 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(07-03-2019 06:13 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  I compared the Big10 $2.64B over 6 years with the $1B/12year deal AAC JUST NEGOTIATED- like, that captures current value.
And PAC12 $3B 12 years.
BigXII well publicized $20M per team per year for MEDIA.

Clueless people fail to separate total distribution from media and thus YOU are the apples to oranges guy
Quo just keeps digging.

Poor Navy, always trying to act like he's just presenting facts, when in fact he's a slippery eel who uses selected data and spin to skew things in favor of his beloved AAC.

We know the B1G just distributed $52m per school ** . Where does that money come from? Primarily media, also CFP/bowls. We know CFP/bowls are about $7m a school. Maybe another $3m from NCAA credits to the conference, and CCG ticket sales.

So that knocks it down to around $42m for that year. By your math, the B1G is getting $31.4 million for its media rights, so where is that extra $10m coming from?

I'd say it's probably coming from media money not captured by your $2.64B/6 year deal - a deal they signed in June 2017, almost two years before this recent AAC deal. That deal went into effect Fall of 2017, three years before this AAC deal does but you think is a current value comparison.

If you don't think so, keep digging Eel.


** That's for 2017-2018 ... for 2018-2019 it's about $56m. I wonder what it will be by the time the AAC schools actually start collecting the $6m (to start) for that deal that doesn't start until 2020-2021 but which Eel calls "current value"?

Wrong.

Big 12 has an average $20 million in media but distributed $35 million. Big 10 has a similar $15 million or so separate from media ($440 million Fox/ESPN/CBS + $110 million or more from BTN-which comes to about $40 million per school).

You say I'm "wrong", and then admit the B1G gets about $40m per school in media money?

The BTN is media money, right?

Try this....

The Big10 reported record revenues of $759 for 2017-2018 year, distributing roughly $54 million per member institution.
This dwarfed other "P5" conferences like the BIgXII, which announcedd it will distribute $38.8 million to each of its ten member institutions.

Obviously, there is a gap between $759 million and $388 million. CFP payments for 2017-2018 were roughly equal, in fact favoring the BigXII $69.84 million to $68.87 million. The Big Ten Network is a large chunk of the difference, with csnbbs posters estimating $110 million from that.
The biggest difference between the two conferences - and the biggest single chunk of each conference's revenue - is in primary media rights contracts. Big10 primary media rights are under ESPN and Fox deals adding up to 6 years $2.64 Billion - $440 million per year. The BigXII's primary media rights contracts were worth $200 million per year (prior to the April 2019 expansion of ESPN buying the three CCGs dropped by Fox and expanding BigXII coverage on ESPN+).

Why is the Big10 primary media rights contract worth 2.2 times what the BigXII contract is worth?
In 2017, the Big10's conference inventory on ESPN and Fox networks garnered 150,425,000 million viewers and the BigXII's conference inventory on ESPN and Fox networks garnered 72,583,000 viewers - 2.07 times as many viewers for 2.2 times the dollars.
Big10 had 307,104,000 viewers aggregated 2017-2018, compared to BigXII's 173,464,000, down to 1.77 times as many viewers getting 2.2 times the money.

The primary media rights contracts are proportional value to viewers across all the FBS conferences.

Honest question. By your analysis, about where do you think Quo's NBE new contract figures will tally.