(06-06-2019 12:09 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  

(06-06-2019 11:51 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(06-06-2019 11:31 AM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  

(06-06-2019 09:45 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(06-06-2019 09:42 AM)dan10 Wrote:  The way the pitchers will adjust is to messed with their angles and planes. That means less fastballs and balls that move in a linear plane. That means a potential rise in junkballers like Jamie Moyer. The other combat is throw harder and faster where they just cant keep up a swing (which you are already seeing more of). This will lead to shorter outings and pitchers who throw hard and more bullpen games to mix up familiarity.

More pen games are already there. It's rare to see pitchers go 7 now adays even when things are going well. Drives me crazy watching managers over manage the pen

Is it over managing? Or is it saving arms and cutting down on Tommy John surgeries?

I can speak to the case of the Yankees because that's what i watch closely and can tell you it's 100% over managing. Their pen first/second half splits the last 5 years have been terrible because by July They have 4 or 5 guys in their pen that are in the top 10 for appearances and have logged more IP than anyone else in the league. Because of that, they wear down. There has to be a balance. There has been a number of occasions this year where Baboone has yanked a SP in the 5th who was cruising and had only pitched 80 or so pitches.

I was talking college. It seems that we may be getting less arm problems by not extending innings with starters. Actually, a number of our pitchers in the recent past have arrived on campus with arm problems from being overused in high school and legion ball.

Fair points. I know they do get over used for sure at HS and legion. Plus, they are throwing junk at much younger ages which doesn't help