(05-03-2019 11:52 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(05-03-2019 10:33 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-03-2019 10:11 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(05-03-2019 10:05 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-03-2019 09:50 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  First, I will take credit for Beta. I coined the term specifically as a pun on Mr. O'Rourke's nickname, since I think he is the leading candidate for VP. Second place. Beta. Number two.
Get it? I have not used it for any other person and haven't noticed anybody else do it. It pleases me that you think it widespread. Thank you.

SJW. Isn't that the topic here? Eliminating a food purveyor because they don't like the charities they support? But if you consider SJW a pejorative, what phrase or word defines their position?

Snowflake. Who needs safe spaces? Who needs protection from being distressed?

\Coastal elite/elite. Elites think they are better than everyone else. Many of them are on the coasts, thus most of the safe Democratic states. If the shoe fits...

Hates America. Well, I think some do. Kaepernick would not stand for the anthem because the flag was a symbol of an oppressive nation. No Democrat's rose to defend the right's of people like me who were offended by that. I have trouble reconciling Rep. Omar's statements with a love for America. Democrats are defending those. I also have trouble with the choice of some of the left's targets. what is more American than Boy Scouts and church? I was never a Scout, and don't attend church, but my political views get me labeled. But in general, I would say that very few actually hate america - they just want to change it into Sweden or France. .

the rest i agree, they are largely or completely over the line - but I don't see them much here and rarely, if ever, use them myself. I have never heard a local liberal call me a deplorable - just your presidential nominee, a New York elite. I have never heard a local call me one who is afraid of people who "don't look like me, and bitterly clinging to my guns and religion" - that was the POTUS, and one of your most elite members, and one who was elite long before he was POTUS. There is just a general atmosphere of elitism in the Demo party, and the higher you go, the more it becomes apparent.

I don't believe that Kaepernick hates America. Protesting injustice does not equate to hating America. Why would Democrats "rise to defend you because you were offended" by his not standing for the National Anthem? You see yourself as a victim in the Kaepernick saga?

Kaepernick said this is an oppressive country. Makes sense to me that one would hate a country in which one is oppressed. Not you?

I think that's a leap. You can not like things about the a country without "hating" the country.

Quote:I was commenting on all the people who said, and still say, I should not be offended by Kaepernick's characterization of America. Are you one of those people?

You can choose to be offended by whatever you want. He is upset about what he views as systemic racial injustice in this country. Is that offensive to you? Asking Democrats to "rise to defend you over it" is a bit much, IMO.

Silence implies that they think the same. protest says they think differently. I am being attacked by the left because I think america is not an oppressive count country. My right to disagree with Kaep has been attacked. Not a problem - I am used to my right to an opinion being attacked.

I think Kaep is wrong. You don't like it, tough for you. But I grew in a an america in which segregation was the law of the land, and there was real oppression for many minorities. I have watched decades of change. America today is not oppressive. Just my opinion, based on what I have seen and what I see. Feel free to go directly to the "White nationalist" card.

Certainly you are entitled to your opinion. In no way do I think your viewpoint makes you a white nationalist.

I assume that you are open to the idea that growing up in America might be different for a black male than it would be for one of your family members (assuming here that they are not black males)? Perhaps certain segments of the population sense oppression that you or your family doesn't?