(05-03-2019 09:50 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(05-03-2019 09:00 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(05-03-2019 08:35 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-03-2019 08:24 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-03-2019 08:11 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Hate to tell you Baldwin isnt the only person who uses that verbiage in that manner.

Here is a question to you 93, have you *ever* used that term to describe a Trump or Republican voter? From my interactions with typical straight D voters (a lot, lived in N. California for 15 years, Austin for a total of 7) I dont think I have met a progressive who hasnt used that term.

So as much as you discount Alec Baldwin using that term in that sense without compunction, do you also discount about 90 per cent of the neighborhood where I currently live? Do you discount in the same way the 95 per cent of co-workers I had in California? Or the similar 95 per cent of people I met overall during my stint there?

I mean if you are going to discount Alec Baldwin using this term, there is a literal bucketload who also use it in pretty much everyday communication in the same manner that you need to magically erase from the 'tally board' onthe progressive side, I would think.

I personally don't use the term "flyover". Perhaps because most of my extended family consists of Trump-supporters in "flyover states".

But, yeah. I've used pejorative language to describe hard right-wingers. No surprise there. I'm sure that every one of us posting on both sides of this thread have done so.

I lived in Southern California during my adult life and continue to spend a ton of time there. I often hang out with liberals there. The vitriol I hear from them is certainly not worse from what I hear from Texas right-wingers. In fact it is much more tame.

What do you consider 'vitriolic' language from those Texas right-wingers that eclipses everything under the sun?

Hack. Coastal elite. Elitist. Hates America. Whiny. Beta. P***y. Cuck. Libtard. Snowflake. SJW.

I’ve seen many of those posted on this board to describe progressives. I’ve never seen anyone on this board actually use flyover in the way you suggest.

First, I will take credit for Beta. I coined the term specifically as a pun on Mr. O'Rourke's nickname, since I think he is the leading candidate for VP. Second place. Beta. Number two.
Get it? I have not used it for any other person and haven't noticed anybody else do it. It pleases me that you think it widespread. Thank you.

SJW. Isn't that the topic here? Eliminating a food purveyor because they don't like the charities they support? But if you consider SJW a pejorative, what phrase or word defines their position?

Snowflake. Who needs safe spaces? Who needs protection from being distressed?

\Coastal elite/elite. Elites think they are better than everyone else. Many of them are on the coasts, thus most of the safe Democratic states. If the shoe fits...

Hates America. Well, I think some do. Kaepernick would not stand for the anthem because the flag was a symbol of an oppressive nation. No Democrat's rose to defend the right's of people like me who were offended by that. I have trouble reconciling Rep. Omar's statements with a love for America. Democrats are defending those. I also have trouble with the choice of some of the left's targets. what is more American than Boy Scouts and church? I was never a Scout, and don't attend church, but my political views get me labeled. But in general, I would say that very few actually hate america - they just want to change it into Sweden or France. .

the rest i agree, they are largely or completely over the line - but I don't see them much here and rarely, if ever, use them myself. I have never heard a local liberal call me a deplorable - just your presidential nominee, a New York elite. I have never heard a local call me one who is afraid of people who "don't look like me, and bitterly clinging to my guns and religion" - that was the POTUS, and one of your most elite members, and one who was elite long before he was POTUS. There is just a general atmosphere of elitism in the Demo party, and the higher you go, the more it becomes apparent.

I don't believe that Kaepernick hates America. Protesting injustice does not equate to hating America. Why would Democrats "rise to defend you because you were offended" by his not standing for the National Anthem? You see yourself as a victim in the Kaepernick saga?