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RE: Big 12 deal with ESPN
(04-16-2019 11:48 AM)zoocrew Wrote:  
(04-16-2019 09:19 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(04-16-2019 09:08 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(04-16-2019 08:57 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Now the narrative is The ACC Network won’t make any money. Based on the the way predictions here have turned out, The ACC is set to make a bundle. 04-cheers

Well, the ACC hasn't been the subject of nearly as much doomsaying around here as has the Big 12. For years, the assumption has been that the Big 12 is a Dead Conference Walking, with 2025 as the end date. So it really is Big 12 supporters who should have a chip on their shoulder about that, not ACC fans.

But since you mention the ACC ...

The ACCN really is the key to ACC long-run stability. When schools like Clemson and FSU grumbled about the money a few years ago, Swofford did a great job reining them back in to the fold.

But he did it with this message: Give me a GOR so I can go to ESPN and negotiate an ACC Network from a position of strength, and that will solve the money problem.

The ACC schools did just that, and Swofford delivered on the ACCN.

The wild-card is: How much extra money will it bring in? Will it be enough to make Clemson and FSU happy?

None of us knows the answer but we are about to start finding out. 07-coffee3

Well I’ve been around here 15 years tomorrow, so I’ve read a lot. I believe idea The Big 12 is going anywhere is misguided. If Texas and Oklahoma jump The Big 12 will reload with programs from The American.

As for what The ACC Network pays, who knows.

LMAO yup even if half the teams in the Big 12 bolt there are plenty of P5 quality AAC teams they can backfill with and still be better than the PAC 12. Big 12 ain’t going nowhere.

Depends on who those teams that bolt are. If Texas and Oklahoma bolt, the Big 12 is dead as a Power conference no matter who it backfills with from the G5. If they remain, then yes, it doesn't matter who leaves and they will still be a Power conference.

That said, I don't think anything is happening with the Big 12 in the forseeable future, including in 2025.
09-26-2019 09:24 AM
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Big 12 deal with ESPN - stever20 - 04-10-2019, 08:43 AM
RE: Big 12 deal with ESPN - bullet - 04-10-2019, 08:48 AM
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RE: Big 12 deal with ESPN - quo vadis - 04-10-2019, 09:02 AM
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