(08-15-2019 03:40 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 03:11 PM)stever20 Wrote:  it's interesting- In Jaffe's chat today on Fangraphs some talk about Kershaw getting in the cy young race.... I think it's very realistic. One thing though that Jaffe said that I disagree with. He said that he'd have to pass both Ryu and Buehler.... Ryu I get. But Buehler? I get looking at the advanced metrics.... SOME. But not totally basing everything on the advanced metrics....

And if it did get to the end and Kershaw was close- I could easily see a real boost to Kershaw- a makeup almost in some voters minds from 2015 and 2016.

Yeah, it's not hard to see him in the race as a contender. It's pretty remarkable what the guy has done to stay sharp. His fastball usage is down like 30 points from where he was 4 or 5 yrs ago. But I agree that Ryu would be the guy he needs to pass. Kershaw might be Dodgers #3 right now (today's shaky start by Buehler notwithstanding), but Buehler did his Spring Training in April. That alone says no to the CY. And I agree that giving Kershaw a makeup might happen, but it might just come from a sentimental POV as well. That said, Ryu would have to really tail off and Kershaw would have to finish with basically no bad games AND Scherzer would have to regress as well - he's ahead of Kershaw right now with all that time out. Tall order.

It's funny- Kershaw has thrown more innings than Scherzer has right now. So if Scherzer came back and struggles at all- I think you could make a real case that it's Ryu 1 and Kershaw 2.