(07-16-2023 05:36 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Lol - jumping to Mao when this applies to literally nearly every politician, and probably every impactful and transformative one. Hell, conservative stalwart Reagan is a great example of someone who saw something they thought was wrong with the country (expansive government) and ran on changing it. Trump’s “Make America Great Again,” is the same fundamental idea.

Why did you go and pick 3 of the most despicable figures in modern history to highlight this very really and very common idea?

You make my point for me and miss the point at the same time. My point was that not everybody who seeks to transform their country (orsociety or ...) into something they see as better is a good guy, nor is their transformed country better. Some, of course, are - which is why I pointed out the others, to show that just trying to effect change is not in itself a noble undertaking.

Quote:I also think it’s pretty ****** that you implied their ideals would be appeal to me. That’s something beyond the pale, and frankly **** off with that. You should be ashamed to do that have said that.

Either apologize and delete that part of the post, or explain clearly and succinctly why Hitler’s goal to transform Germany in his image would appeal to me. I’d love to hear it you *******.

Man, you went from LOL to ******* PDQ. And to think I am supposed to be the thin skinned one.

Odd that you don't demand an apology for Lenin or Mao. Were those OK with you?

I meant that you, as a leftist, would likely be in favor of people trying to effect change to make the world a better place according to their values. Isn't that the root meaning of the word "Progressive"?