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RE: Rice Quad Supreme Court / Legal Decisions Thread
(03-23-2022 12:30 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  
(03-23-2022 12:11 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(03-23-2022 11:59 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  
(03-23-2022 09:06 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  I have not been closely following the confirmation hearings of the future First Black Female Justice (name unimportant), but a couple of the things that are the focus of some opposition have caught my attention.

1. Low sentences for child porn convictions.

I saw the table of her sentences vs. recommended. I am not concerned with thye low sentences - I generally favor lower sentences - but I would like to know why she did this. Is it because she thinks possession of child porn is a victimless crime? But she is not saying why.

HUH? Did you listen to her testimony? She said that there were many factors that go into it beyond the prosecutor's recommendations. Note that the prosecutor's recommendations were often themselves below federal guidelines (generally accepted as Draconian from what I understand). It also seems that her sentencing was similar to that of her peers (I don't have data to back that up... just what I've heard).

She also gave a pretty impassioned account of victim statements regarding these matters.

Did you hear any of that?

Where did you come up with the bolded? I find that statement truly puzzling.

As I said(Did you hear me?), I have not been following this closely. But I want to know why she choose as she did in those cases. You said she said many factors: what were the factors that lead her to make these choices? I want to know - if you don't care to know, that's on you.

Huh to the bolded?

You claimed that she was not saying which contradicted what happened. Where did you come up with your idea that she refused to discuss it?

From your statement "She said that there were many factors that go into it beyond the prosecutor's recommendations." If she got more specific than that, please let me know. That is what I want to know - the specifics of how she arrived at that sentence in each case.

Perhaps I can find time to find the transcript of her testimony.

Quote:I have heard Hunter and his dad were selling influence. Shall we both take what the other has heard as fact?

OK?

Quote:I agree the guidelines are draconian, and I would support a reduction in those guidelines. I generally am on the side of more enforcement (more cops) in lieu of longer sentences. I am not the stereotypical right-winger. I might even agree with her. But I do want to know what it was she saw in these particular cases that caused her to so substantially under sentence. If you know, tell me. "It's complicated" is not a sufficient answer.

Again... you sure about that or are you just listening to Jesse and Tucker?

Am I sure about what? that I am not the stereotypical right-winger? That is my opinion. But since your stereotypes may be different, you may have a different opinion. Please enumerate what you believe are the positions and/or qualities of a stereotypical right-winger and I will let you know if they match with me.

As for Jesse and Tucker, I know you are just trying to be slyly obnoxious and to demean my positions, but I have decided not to let pettiness goad me into reactions. So...pass. I shall stick to answering questions civilly and as accurately as I can.
03-23-2022 03:15 PM
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