(01-18-2019 09:05 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-17-2019 07:11 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  No, Im not arguing that the G5 could stop the P5 from leaving the NCAA. I dont think they can. What Im suggesting is that the P5 might run into legal problems attempting to exclude the G5 from their new organization if a G5 wishes to join. I think a G5 could argue there is no similar college football organization beyond the P5's new division. If those G5 schools are willing to compete against the P5 schools, despite a disadvantage in resources, then the only real reason to keep them out of the organization is a desire to restrict the supply of the top level games in order to push up their price.

The obvious question that the G5 conference or team that made that argument would face is "why isn't the remaining G5 league a similar college football organization"?

There is a contradiction in your argument: If the G5 teams are top-level, such that if the P5 teams refuse to play them they are reducing the supply of games amongst top-level programs, then there is no harm done by a split, because the games among the G5 teams in the new G5-only league would be top-level games too, meaning the consumer still has access to the same number of top level games. A split would be like the AFL and NFL were in the 1960s before the merger, or NBA and ABA were before the ABA went out of business. Two separate top level leagues.

On the other hand, if a P5 split would mean that the remaining G5 league isn't top level, then that destroys the notion that the split itself would reduce the number of top level games, because it would mean that currently, when a P5 and a G5 play each other, that isn't a game between top level teams.

It would mean that in reality, the G5 leagues are only top level if they are affiliated with the P5 leagues, while the P5 leagues remain top level even if they don't affiliate with the G5 leagues, which means the G5 leagues are seeking a legal right to piggy-back on the market value of the P5 leagues and there is no such right.

That sounds right to me.

How would a split be settled? Would the P5 say see ya, we are leaving and having an 8 team playoff under a new college association but what does that do to the bowl system?

If the settlement is the NCAA can keep its 64 team tournament and the G5 can keep the bowl system aside from the NY6 which goes to the P5 then does it help the G5 ultimately?

The P5 would probably have to go with Fox to make a renegade move. That will upset ESPN and the TV contracts they have right now, leaving behind the ability to play off ESPN and Fox in negotiations.

I guess I'm not seeing what the G5 should fear from a split rather what the could negotiate for if it were to happen. A split could be a good thing. For one it would put G5 programs in a position to win D1 championships in a way they can't now competing with high resource schools.