(01-09-2019 10:47 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(01-09-2019 10:29 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  

(01-09-2019 09:12 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(01-09-2019 07:25 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  

(01-08-2019 03:37 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Their funding has NOTHING to do with fighting climate change. It's the politicians' decision what to do with the information provided.

Really?

If they came out tomorrow and admitted the whole thing was a hoax or that they honestly don't know if the climate is actually changing, that funding would dry up instantly.

Self-preservation is the first law of nature.

Still holding out hope that it's a hoax? Good luck with that.

And you could make that argument about EVERYTHING scientists are doing in any field. But this is the only area where people suddenly decide that they'd rather believe the CEO of a fossil fuel company than the people actually studying the issue.

Also, if they determined that the Earth is warming, but not due to humans, one would think you'd still want to study it so we'd know what we need to be prepared for and how soon.

There's no holding out hope, it is a hoax.

The "climate" has gone thru warming & cooling periods throughout history...... NONE of which had anything to to with the SUV.

They never even consider that....

A) They have no real idea WHY it happens which means man has no control over it.
B) It might have more to do with that big bright ball in the sky than it does my using air conditioning.
C) It's the height of arrogance to think that "man" is completely responsible and only "man" is capable of "fixing" unknown causes.

In any case, I refuse to change society and drastically affect our way of life based on "I think" theories that can't be proved and plans that have no way of being proved effective.

Have you read anything about climate from someplace other than right-wing blogs? It's mostly CO2, which started increasing around 1850 and also the ratio of C isotopes in the atmosphere started changing much faster at the same time. There has been no increase in total solar irradiance during that time. And it's arrogant to think that humans can do whatever they want without it affecting the atmosphere, or rivers, or forests.

Which is why no one is saying pollute rivers, detonate nuclear bombs, or throw cigarettes out car windows. We should all try to limit pollution. However, the earth's climate has changed multiple times going from sauna to global snowball all without the presence of humans. The climate is going to do what it wants to do regardless of humans. Yes, we should do our part and conserve; however, to think we have ultimate control no matter what we do is silly.