(12-16-2018 01:26 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-16-2018 11:41 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-16-2018 10:49 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-16-2018 08:52 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(12-16-2018 01:24 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  If you autobid, the old BCS rule that a non-AQ champion earns an autobid if ranked higher than an autobid champion.

Yes, that may be a better fall back position for the Go5 when there is push back against the ambit claim of a dedicated Go5 champion spot ... the highest ranked Go5 champion cannot be excluded when a lower ranked A5 champion is awarded a spot.

The Rose Bowl might also note that this would mean That School Up North in the Rose Bowl, which would be a stronger consolation prize for the Big Ten champion always being in the CFP.

I wouldn't like that at all. It’s basically putting the Committee back into the role of doorman. The whole point of autobid is to allow teams to win their way in without undue interference from some subjective Committee. The playoff will be it’s most legitimate when the action on the field of play is given priority over the Committee where possible.

You consistently use terms like "win their way in" while failing to recognize that a clubby conference competition using rules decided by that club in no way proves that a team is more worthy of a playoff spot than a team from another conference, i.e., a team that wasn't involved in their clubby competition.

It makes no sense for 10 teams from the Big 12 to play games amongst themselves only, and yet then present the winner of that competition, as determined by their own clubby rules, as *automatically* more worthy of a playoff spot than teams from other conferences. And that's what an auto-bid does.

True, winning that clubby competition among 10 teams is *something*, it's not totally meaningless. It means you beat out 10 teams as determined by the rules of that club. So it should figure in to the determination of who gets a playoff spot in some way, just not automatically.

And heck, if you don't like a subjective committee picking the teams - strange, because the belief that if you win your conference you should be in a playoff is itself a totally subjective belief and criteria - then let computers pick the 8 teams.

lol. Youve gone completely off the deep end.

Dont those "clubby" 10-14 team college football competitions, actually represent an exclusive level of such quality, that the "power conference" label is required (at least that's what you've basically said in literally thousands of previous posts). Now you have suddenly done a complete about face and defined them as "clubs" that arent really all that significant in college football. Interesting.

Your entire response here is nonsensical. You don't even attempt to defend the idea that a conference title should *entitle* a team to a national playoff birth, except to proclaim that conferences have existed for 100 years.

And of course conferences are *extremely* important in college football, and I've never said otherwise. I've just said they are a poor basis for choosing playoff participants.

And on that point, it's also true that those same conferences have never ever created what you want them to create - a playoff with automatic bids for themselves. Not ever, in all those 100 years.

Maybe they realize it doesn't make any sense too?