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(11-30-2018 12:27 PM)bearcatmill Wrote:  

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(11-29-2018 12:23 PM)bearcatmill Wrote:  Outside of Cincinnati, where apparently it is sacrilegious to say anything bad about Egg-savier, and a few BE locals - individuals do not include the New BE with Cartel 5. Most fans I run into look at them as a mid-major. Nova keeps them in the conversation sometimes, however as a team outside the Cartel 5, similar to Gonzaga.

Amusing, but some (new) Big East fans have actually co-opted the term P6 and use it in reference to their post breakup, watered down basketball conference. "P (insert number here)" is about college football, only.

I'm not saying that's a bad basketball conference either. Villanova peaked shortly after the breakup and deserves lots of credit for a pair of championships. After that though, no other program has reached the Final Four since formation.

It's not just Big East fans, the networks have adopted that term as well. Actually, ESPN referred to the AAC as a "Power 7" conference in a few games last year on the tv guide.

Power 7 is a joke.. Can't we just have majors and mid-majors? If your conference routinely sends multiple teams to the tournament you're major (or say 3 teams or more routinely.) If your conference is a 1 bid league or a conference who occasionally gets a second bid or third bid, you're mid-major. Argue number thresholds?

AAC can be expected to get 3-5 bids every year and the Big East anywhere from 4-6. If they're mid-major so is the Pac12 and SEC. To call a conference "inferior" or "little" as mid-major implies because they don't play football is absurd.

I was curious so I checked some numbers of bids by conference by year:
2018 Tournament Bids: Big East (6), American (3), A10 (3), Pac12 (3)
2017 Tournament Bids: Big East (7), A10 (3), American (2)
2016 Tournament Bids: Big East (5), American (4), SEC (3), A10 (3)
2015 Tournament Bids: Big East (6), A10 (3), American (2),
2014 Tournament Bids: A10 (6), American (4), Big East (4), SEC (3)

Championships by Conference
American - 6
Big East - 5
Big 12 - 5
Big 10 - 11 (6 outside of Indiana with 5)
SEC - 11 (3 outside of UK with 8)
Pac 12 - 16 (5 outside of UCLA with 11)
...shows our conference has some historical relevance.

I have never understood why fans adopt what media outlets tell them. Major, mid-major, P5, G5 are all espn created terms. Fans gobble these up as fact. Why can't a fan think for themselves, instead of parroting what some balloon head on espn tells them? Also, these terms follow all teams within a particular conf, not a teams individual performance.

You could say Nova is performing at a Major level in bball. Bama obviously in Fball. However, the is nothing major about DePaul, St John, Seton Hall. Georgetown is no longer Major in bball. In Fball Rutgers, Vandy, IU, Purdue, GTech, BC, Iowa St, ect. are no where near being Major programs. Media welfare recipients is more like it.