(09-23-2018 03:17 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(09-23-2018 03:14 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Perfect example of how even the more-left leaning candidates publicly advocate that abolishing ICE is about reinventing immigration policy and not just, as the most cynical will say, creating open borders for votes. Yes, some lawmakers will probably try and abolish deportations in general, but that is the fringe we’re talking about.

Quote:...Ocasio-Cortez wrote on her campaign website. Senator Kirsten Gillibrand of New York—a potential 2020 presidential contender—hopped on the bandwagon shortly after, telling CNN, “I believe that ice has become a deportation force … and that’s why I believe you should get rid of it, start over, reimagine it, and build something that actually works...”

Democratic Representative Pramila Jayapal of Washington, one of the most outspoken lawmakers on the issue, said in an email that she wants “to eliminate the agency as it stands and restructure its functions, starting from scratch.” Jayapal, along with Representative Mark Pocan of Wisconsin, will soon be introducing legislation to dismantle the agency. “There will still be enforcement of immigration laws, but it must be without cruelty and abuse,” she said.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatla...le/564752/

Anyways, not trying to advocate one way or the other, just pointing out that there are lots of quotes and evidence of Dems advocating for the abolishment of ICE in a way that doesn’t result in a complete halting of immigration enforcement.

And Ocasio makes it clear she opposes it because of "deportation". Apparently "deportation" of illegal aliens "doesnt work" (her words) for her.

It is spoken eloquently but the main point is still there when you actually read it. Apparently "deportation" is "cruel" and "abus[ive]".
Funny stuff.

I’m confused. We were talking about the repercussions of abolishing ICE, not issues with ICE and why people wanted to abolish ICE.

Again, even Cortez is saying that abolishing ICE would result in enforcing immigration policy, just in a reformed manner.