(02-12-2018 01:18 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(02-12-2018 11:25 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(02-12-2018 11:18 AM)TU4ever Wrote:  Umm who are these national recruits Penny Hardaway will bring lol? He's a high school coach who had a cup of coffee in the NBA before any of these recruits were born. Don't get me wrong he was a good player (with Shaq) and lil penny was awesome. But none of these kids know that.

I just listed 3 top 80 kids in 2019 who start for him now.

15 years in the NBA is a cup of coffee? Maybe he'll pull out his Olympic gold medal to show those kids who don't remember him.

He's not Jordan, no one not steeped in Memphis history will know him, hell he played for Memphis State most kids wouldn't even know Memphis use to be called that.

I'm not arguing his NBA career (which really is average at best barring a short period of good/great play 94-97) and his gold medal is nice and will get him some credit, if he can get in the door. The problem is when he calls the kid for the first time they are going to say who?? He comes with no college experience, compliance or recruiting experience. Hell he hasn't even been a high school coach for too long. But then we come to the Crux of the issue for all the tubby haters and the local Memphis media.

The local kids, I swear it's like putting them on the rack for Tubby not to even look at these kids. How dare he not want them these future Jordan's and hall of famers. How dare he not recognize the greatness of Memphis high school basketball and by default the greatness of the city of Memphis.

Let me remind you of three crucial points:

1) recruiting rankings particularly in basketball are garbage, no one sees enough players and then their are all the personal things that change for a 17 or 18 year old kid. Hell there were busts in college of players who the NBA graded first round draft choices and straight out of high school kids who flopped. Pastner had stacked classes and you all didn't do so hot.

2) local kids come with baggage and recent local recruits have been an issue at Memphis.

3) Tubby clearly recognizes talent and can land it. Most of Texas Tech's team destroying the big Xii are his, and I believe all 5 senior starters are too. He has produced NCAA teams by his third year at every school he has coached at which means those teams were dominately his players.

clueless

Texas Tech plays 10 guys. 3 of them are Tubby's. 5 of their top 7 scorers are Beard's recruits. But the fact that you believe that a guy who hasn't finished about .500 in conference play in over 10 years is a good coach, tells me all I need to know about your judgment of Hardaway and his standing in today's AAU world.