(01-12-2018 10:09 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-10-2018 07:50 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(01-10-2018 07:29 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(01-10-2018 07:13 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(01-10-2018 06:52 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Maybe, just maybe, NC has always had a natural advantage on the federal level that has been masked by the Dems gerrymander. You're also forgetting to include the political execution of the Blue Dog Democrats by the Democratic party. Reps like McIntyre in my district were Democrats but now the district is Republican because a Blur Dog cannot win the Democratic primary

So many factors go into the Dems having an even number of House seats on the federal level.

The dems gerrymandered the best they could just like the GOP did. Do you agree with that statement?

The courts did nothing about it then so why are they doing something now?

I think that is a false equivalency. There is certainly gerrymandering regardless of party but the extent that the GOP went to once they gained power is over the top. Also the courts did do something about it when Democrats were in power. There were court challenges and various districts had to be redrawn on more that one occasion.

Not at all a false equivalency. In a red state getting 6 dems at the federal level is pretty good

What state are you talking about with 6 Democrats? The only Democrats in the NC delegation are Price, Butterfield and Adams.

NC isn't a red state. We are a purple state.

Since 1980 in presidential elections:
Republicans 9
Democrats 1

Its a red state, just not deep red.

You might as well include election results from the 1800s if you are going back to 1980 to discuss the demographics of NC today. They would be about as relevant.

Heck, look at the changes since 2000. I think Bush won by 15 points that year (something like that, might have been a little less). Last 3 have been very close (2 have been razor thin margins).

We probably are still a light red state though, don’t disagree with that. Going to get lighter every year as demographics continue to shift. Our state is growing at an enormous rate. Those people aren’t moving here to work at the Walmart in Scotland county. They are moving to Wake and Mecklenburg and the other thriving population centers in the state. That’s good news for Democrats.