(01-10-2018 07:53 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(01-10-2018 07:35 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(01-10-2018 07:27 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(01-10-2018 06:56 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Under the voting rights act NC is required to create two districts that a minority candidate would have a fighting chance to win, thus the 12 district that you see on the 90 map. That isn't gerrymandering.

That is actually the very definition of gerrymandering

The district is being drawn to render a certain outcome

We can argue semantics but I would say the difference is that in this case it is court ordered whereas gerrymandering is done by a political party for party benefit. Whichever party is in control of the process they have to create these districts.

Sure they have to follow the law

But that doesn't change the fact that it's gerrymandering

Nor does it change the fact that the courts never ordered an out of state map drawer for the Dems gerrymander like they did the GOP's

Gerrymandering is bad but it's hypocrisy for the court the call out the GOP's gerrymander of less than 10 years when they did nothing about the decades of gerrymandering the Dems did.

I point out hypocrisy because it's poison to our system

Okay if we accept your argument that there is no difference how does that justify what the GOP has done in the years that they have held power? If you remember that spent years calling for an end to gerrymandering, demanding that a nonpartisan committee be used to draw districts and saying that if they ever took power it would end, they would do the right thing. Then they take power and all that righteous indignation disappeared. Then they proceeded to take gerrymandering to an art form with no apologies and with a swagger. See the David Lewis you tube link I put up and after it plays let the next one play.

Are you willing to point out that hypocrisy and call for an end to the partisan gerrymandering or are you one of those that says if they did it we get to do it too?