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(01-29-2018 10:03 AM)monarx Wrote:  

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(01-27-2018 07:38 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 10:38 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  Well said - bar has most definitely not been lowered. Long time fans will remember the CAA was almost always a one bid league, too. It did happen from time to time but it was unusual for the CAA to receive two bids. Getting to the dance in CUSA is not that much different than it was in the CAA. You’ve got to win the conference tournament.

=> Perception. The CUSA is a much more competitive conference than the CAA. We were a lock for top four in the CAA virtually every year. No longer. Yet the national perception is that the CUSA is no better than the CAA from a strength-of-conference standpoint. That's wrong. But it is reality.

We were a lock every year because we were A LOT better. This is exactly what I mean when I say the bar has been lowered.

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We were a big fish in a small pond in the CAA. Hence, A LOT better than Deleware, Hofstra, UNC-W, Bill and Mary...etc. Our only consistent competition was VCU and GMU. CUSA is a bigger pond and harder to compete in. I don’t follow your logic about the bar being lowered, and I prefer to compete in a bigger pond. Hanging a CUSA banner in the Ted will significantly enhance the CAA banners that are currently displayed - and will demonstrate our growth as a program. And it will eventually happen - hopefully this year.

You should probably move on to supporting a P5 school. I would suggest a team like Kansas, Kentucky, UNC, Villa...that reload every year with blue chips. Because that will NEVER be ODU - and our current situation is as good as it gets. Seems you would be more satisfied if you’re currently dissatisfied. The bar has most certainly not been lowered.

Have to disagree on most of this. There were plenty of times in the CAA where Hofstra, Drexel, UNCW (ever heard of Brett Blizzard?) and even JMU provided very tough competition for the Monarchs. Also, by every measurement out there, the CAA is consistently rated better than CUSA. I believe that is in large part due to CUSA having 2 more awful teams, but it is the case none the less. Also, I do believe the top four of CUSA are all very good teams and would probably win the Colonial (in spite of WM beating us), but after that, the CAA is as good or better.

I agree that this year CUSA is A LOT better than the CAA. I think the best CAA team would be somewhere around 5th or 6th in this year's CUSA.