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(03-13-2018 09:33 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(03-13-2018 09:24 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(03-13-2018 09:07 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Football is a tailgate party. We can do that in any conference. We don't compete for anything and we will NEVER be in a New Years Day bowl. Not even Marshall or WKU are competing for that. It would take an $5M coaching investment at least to get to that level. It would take an undefeated season (to include beating the ACC schools on the schedule) and blue chip recruits. You have stars in your eyes and I get it, but need to come back down to reality a bit. The last 2 years is what we are going to get in football. If we schedule enough cupcakes and the conference sucks bad enough, we go to a bowl.

You're trying to use short-term data from a team that just transitioned to paint a bleak picture. Way too hyperbolic for my taste.

We compete for a CUSA championship. Winning that would mean more than some CAA title, where they have maybe 3 decent teams per year.

No G5 coach is making 5 mil a year. Chad Morris is the highest paid and doesnt make half that.

And while we may or may not have the right coach for the job right now. That doesnt mean we need cupcakes infinitely to compete.

UCF head coach Josh Heupel will be paid $1.7 million annually over five years, per his Memorandum of Understanding, the same salary amount that Scott Frost was paid during his first year as the Knights' head coach.

https://247sports.com/college/central-fl...-111797904

That's $8.5M tight there with a $10M buyout. We can't compete with that.

I like Bobby Wilder and prefer not to throw good money after bad. He is the perfect guy to compete for national championships in the FCS and SB Ballard at Foreman Field is the perfect stadium to do it from. The games were better, the atmosphere was better, and locals unaffiliated with the school used to talk about ODU football. The experiment failed. Nobody wants to see UTSA and nobody wants to see us lose by 30 to NC State or watch as Virginia Tech takes over our campus. We just can't compete.

What we can do is build a basketball program that can compete. We already have the venue and with much lower travel and football expenses, we can pay a coach the market rate.

We can compete, we just don't have the state support, facilities, coaching and recruiting to do so. I'm convinced with the right leadership and financial investment it could happen. Unfortunately we have neither and the state is working against us in every way to keep it from ever happening. So with that reality, the best situation may be as you describe. But I put the blame for that squarely on state and university leadership. We seem to have a budget large enough to do good things with, but spread it out to non revenue sports at too high of a rate. Theres no other reasons at all why ODU cant be equal in football to UCF, ECU, Marshall, WMU, NIU, Navy etc.