(10-08-2017 04:19 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  If USF and UCF continue to sustain success does it make them any more attractive for P5 membership? If the Big 12 somehow continues beyond the expiration of their GOR do they get in as a pair? They bring a pair of nice Florida markets and rich recruiting and could either be put with the 4 Texas schools for a division, creating the opportunity for a a Texas-Oklahoma rematch for a title. Or they could be matched with WVU and the 3 prairie schools.

In order to get an upgrade, you really need to show consistent high level P5 compatibility.

Lets look at USF's resume. They are 6-0, but the teams they've beaten are 6-26 vs FBS. 8-2 vs FCS. Last year they went 11-2, but only beat 3 teams with winning records (best win - over 2 G5 teams with 5 losses). There's not a lot going back beyond the last 5 years to hang one's hat on either. They're not dominating the AAC much less the G5.

And then there's UCF. By the way, they should be the higher ranked team. A legit good win versus Memphis and a good one versus Maryland. Neither of those will get you to the P5 though. In 2016, they finished with a losing record. 2015, they were winless. 2014, Good year for the G5, but went 0-3 vs P5 teams. 2013, Legit P5 candidate season. 2012, 0-2 vs P5 teams.

UCF has had one legit statement year recently. But followed it up with some truly awful play. And they've done that several times. But if you're looking at TCU or Louisville, UCF doesn't really meet that standard.