(10-11-2017 09:41 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  

(10-10-2017 10:02 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(10-10-2017 07:44 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  

(10-10-2017 04:50 PM)Sellular1 Wrote:  

(10-09-2017 03:20 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  So in other words, bias and failure of imagination.

I'm sure the B12 wouldn't be interested in USC either because they are directional

The perception of so-called directional schools is that these schools are not the state flagship, nor are they considered the number two state institution. Schools like East Carolina, South Florida, Central Florida, Western Michigan, Northern Illinois, Southern Mississippi, Central Michigan, Western Kentucky, etc. - are all viewed as number three (or lower) in their own respective state, athletically.

Perception-wise, ECU is behind UNC, Duke, NCST, WF; UCF and USF are behind UF, FSU and Miami; WMU are CMU behind UM and MSU; NIU is behind UI and NU; WKU is behind UK and UL.

Like Frank said, school presidents are old-school and like old-money. Universities like Texas, Oklahoma and Kansas would be unlikely to swallow their pride and associate themselves within a conference with such schools. The Big 12 would be torn apart, with the remnants calling teams up, long before they would choose the alternative.

A couple of things; UCF is the 3rd most popular in Florida look it up, and being 3rd or even 4th most popular in a talent rich and 3rd most populous state isn’t bad. Would the B12 turn down Stanford or Cal bc they’re the 3rd or 4th popular in California (academics notwithstanding)? The B12 already has the 3rd most popular in Texas. The reality is some of you just can’t get over the damned name and that’s it.

Which of the three (UF/FSU/Miami) is UCF more popular than? Each of those three programs have a much strong athletic pedigree than UCF/USF, not to mention the history and national prestige.

And the logic of the Big 12 turning down Stanford/Cal/USC is groundless. Those three programs have decades of success, exposure and history that many schools cannot compete with.

For the record, I am not bad-mouthing directional schools. I was simply stating what the perception of them was from university Presidents, who are old-school and come from old money (much like Frank said).

Miami..... but I think he was basing it off of some statewide poll done by an company running political polls during last years election.
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/foot...PwI4tVLJP/

Nobody can question the U's pedigree and history, but one can question their fan support and popularity in the state.