(10-06-2017 11:14 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(10-05-2017 07:04 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-05-2017 05:29 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-05-2017 05:04 PM)JRsec Wrote:  This clearly indicates that why N.D. even as a partial is so valuable to the ACC. Notre Dame's part time presence increases even the valuations of the ACC schools without being considered fully. Otherwise the average valuation of $182,383,929 would be a tad lower.

So adding either W.V.U. or Connecticut would only detract from the average valuation of the ACC. Louisville increased it.

That's why Louisville was added, and why they aren't likely to be booted.

It's also partly why the Big 12 is still alive. Only Texas and Oklahoma add to the value of the SEC and Big 10. They still add even if O.S.U. and T.T.U. are taken. But O.S.U. and T.T.U. don't add to either the SEC's or B1G's bottom line (academics not being considered to their detriment). So if OU and UT don't go to the Big 10 or SEC where they would earn the most by quite a bit, then they have an Officer and a Gentlemen's moment, "I got nowhere else to go!" Hence the survival of the Big 12.

Excellent analysis. It kind of confirms what we all kind of figured - regarding the Big 12, it exists at the pleasure of Texas and Oklahoma. They are the 900 and 800 pound gorillas surrounded by a bunch of 100 pound monkeys. Anyone who says schools like Kansas or Oklahoma State are valuable to anyone else are kidding themselves. They aren't even valuable to Texas and Oklahoma, save in the sense that those two need at least 8 other warm bodies to make a conference, and they are the warmest stiffs available.

It also tells us that why the ACC has done some very un-ACC like things the last few years, like admit an athletic mercenary like Louisville and permit a partial affiliation in Notre Dame: Their value is inherently low, so they were desperate.

And I know, ACC fans will say "well, this is our value before the ACCN kicks in", and that's true. But wake me up when the ACCN kicking in results in a substantial boosts to those values.

To illustrate your take on the Big 12 here are the WSJ football valuations for that conference the number next to the schools name will be their national ranking in valuation:

2. Texas: $1,243,124,000
3. Oklahoma: $1,001,967,000
29. Oklahoma State: $285,293,000
30. Kansas State: $277,208,000
34. Texas Tech: $246,871,000
41. Iowa State: $196,973,000
43. Kansas: $183,031,000
48. T.C.U.: $153,631,000
59. Baylor: $103,591,000
66. West Virginia: $72,649,000

So you can look at the positioning and see just how much of a dwarf that most of them are. What is misleading here is that Kansas basketball value added to their moribund football value would probably elevate them above Iowa State, and Texas Tech and maybe even Kansas State, but probably not Oklahoma State where basketball and baseball add as well.

You can also see why the Texa-homa package would work if required. They average added valuation for the four would be 694,313,750 which exceeds the SEC per school average by 171,000,000 per school, the Big 10 by 279,000,000 per school and blows away anything the PAC or ACC presently has. But truly nobody from the Big 12 moves alone without either Texas or Oklahoma, or both.

In short 60% of the total valuation of the Big 12 belongs to Texas and Oklahoma. The other 8 schools combined contribute the final 40% of their total valuation.

But in fairness 1. Ohio State: $1,510,482,000 & 6. Michigan: $892,951,000 represent 42.3% of the Big 10's total valuation.

After #7 Notre Dame: $856,938,000 the next closest ACC school is #20 Florida State $385,339,000.

It's hard to put any stock in these numbers without knowing and understanding the methodology of the researcher, and the purpose of the study.